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Date:      Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:32:10 +1200
From:      James Butler <sweetnavelorange@gmail.com>
To:        Randi Harper <randi@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Hans Petter Selasky <hselasky@c2i.net>
Subject:   Re: Fwd: Can't boot 8.0-BETA4 from USB stick
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2009/9/11 Randi Harper <randi@freebsd.org>:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM, James Butler <sweetnavelorange@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2009/9/11 Randi Harper <randi@freebsd.org>:
>> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM, James Butler
>> > <sweetnavelorange@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 2009/9/10 Hans Petter Selasky <hselasky@c2i.net>:
>> >> > On Thursday 10 September 2009 06:37:13 James Butler wrote:
>> >> >> Is there anything else worth trying?
>> >> >
>> >> > Another brand of memory sticks?
>> >>
>> >> I have only the three different brands that I tried (Toshiba and two
>> >> different no-names). Is there really nothing like an adjustable delay
>> >> at boot? Perhaps it's time to spend NZD$30 on a CF card and IDE
>> >> adapter, but that will be of limited use for troubleshooting or
>> >> installation.
>> >>
>> >> -James
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>> >
>> > I've been asking around about an option to delay before mounting root as
>> > well. I don't know of anything off the top of my head, but it sounds to
>> > me
>> > like a bug (or at least a reasonable feature request). Send a PR?
>>
>> I probably will now, I just wanted to exhaust the existing options. It
>> seems to me that a "wait for the configured root device to appear"
>> timeout could be arbitrarily long (eg. 10+ secs) by default without
>> adversely affecting the normal use case, but I don't claim to know how
>> the boot process works.
>>
>> > Have you only tried this on the one computer? It seems suspicious that
>> > all
>> > the cards are having this problem when I've only heard of two cases of
>> > USB
>> > flash-slowness causing problems so far. I'm curious to see if you have
>> > the
>> > same problem using that flash disk with a different computer.
>>
>> I think I used the same drive to test-install 8.0-BETA1 on my old
>> Thinkpad X31, which seemed to work OK. This Asus motherboard is a but
>> useless in other ways; still, 7.2 runs fine.
>>
>> -James
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>
> To avoid adversely affecting the normal use case, a tunable could specify
> the option of having the mount wait until the device appears, or possibly
> for how long to delay the mount. This really isn't my area of expertise,
> though, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
>
> Not sure if you've seen these, but this is a problem other people are
> reporting as well:
>
> Relevant but not enlightening:
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-May/007457.html
> Slightly more helpful:
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-August/010562.html
>
> Not all that relevant, but interesting anyways:
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-July/009912.html
>

Ha - I didn't find anything when I searched the lists, must've been
what my wife calls a "boy look".

FYI: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=138798

Thanks,
-James



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