Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 08:06:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Subject: blind blocking [was Re: kern/96157...] Message-ID: <201010281306.o9SD6M2L017274@mail.r-bonomi.com>
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> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:06:43 +0000 > From: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> > To: Jaakko Heinonen <jh@freebsd.org> > Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com> > Subject: Re: kern/96157: Subtle incompatability of FreeBSD and LITE-ON > SOHW-1673s drive > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 04:25:21PM +0300, Jaakko Heinonen wrote: > > I am sorry but I don't think that we can realistically expect developers > > to go through such hoops to just reach a PR submitter. Thus by closing > > the PR I will also save time of the next person trying to contact the > > submitter. > > I'm going to have to side with Jaakko on this one. Due to the sheer > number of PRs that we receive, we simply can't take tens of minutes, or > hours, on all of them. (For the past several years we have only been > able to keep the total number of PRs from rising too much.) jh@ and others > have been doing great work to try to prune the stale ones, so that we can > more easily see the others. > > I sympathise with the OP about having to have all the anti-spam measures > in place; I've had my email address for over 10 years now and have tried > various combinations of razor wire, boiling oil, and so forth. But the > reality is that if we're getting 60+ PRs/day, not every one is going to > get the time it deserves. There is also a small matter of -who- is askin *WHOM* for help. If the person making the request puts up barriers, of -any- sort, to the people he's asking for help from, he deserves whatever happens. Rather than making people who are responding to _his_ message jump through hoops, and spending -his- 'oh, so valuable' time bitching when they -choose- not to do so, he wuold be much better off improving the selectivity of his mail filtering system. With _very_ little effort, on can quite reliably detect (in roughly 10 -million- pieces of spam, I have had -one- false positive on detecting a 'reply' -- And i'm using the "simplest/dumbest" *possible* methodology for doing so) a reply to a message you, yourself, have sent. That should be an automatic bypass of virtually -all- other checking of the message. This is -especially- true, when sending mail to any sort of an 'aggregate' address (of which a mailing-list is but one example), where one does -not- know where a 'valid' response is going to come from.
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