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Date:      Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:09:24 -0700
From:      perryh@pluto.rain.com
To:        dougb@freebsd.org
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, jhs@berklix.com, portsuser@larseighner.com, sem@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: suggestion for pkgdb from ports-mgmt/portupgrade: add more explanation
Message-ID:  <4e623514.yL1tB2EYfva/oUIW%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
In-Reply-To: <4E61BB11.9070007@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201109011333.p81DX2sN081775@fire.js.berklix.net> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1109021657410.1576@abbf.6qbyyneqvnyhc> <4E61BB11.9070007@FreeBSD.org>

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Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 09/02/2011 14:58, Lars Eighner wrote:
> > The main thing here, of course, is that ports uses "dependency"
> > in the exact opposite of its normal English sense (just as
> > twitter uses "following" in the exact opposite of its normal
> > English sense).
> > 
> > In normal Engish 'X is a dependency of Y' means Y is necessary
> > for X (X depends on Y)
>
> I'm not sure why you believe this to be true. Can you give
> examples from non-technical English prose, and some dictionary
> definitions to back up your claim?

In normal English, I would not expect "dependency" to be used that
way at all.  Instead, I would expect something along the lines of
"a state of dependency exists between X and Y".  To specify the
direction of the relationship, I would expect "X depends on Y" or,
equivalently, "X is a dependent of Y" -- the latter being more often
seen as "X is Y's dependent".  Example:  in connection with income
taxes, "my son is my dependent".



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