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Date:      Sat, 8 Jan 2005 10:46:57 -0800
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
Cc:        Jose M Rodriguez <josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es>
Subject:   Re: Xorg ICE vs. Xfce4 (4.2-RC3) needs fixing /etc/rc.d/cleartmp
Message-ID:  <20050108184657.GB8265@odin.ac.hmc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <200501081420.48513.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
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On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 02:20:44PM +0100, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> On Friday, 7. January 2005 19:20, Brooks Davis wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:11:30AM +0100, Jose M Rodriguez wrote:
> > > Brooks Davis escribi=F3:
> > > >Could you please try the following patch?  It does the same thing, b=
ut
> > > >gives the inode paranoid a way to disable the creation of these
> > > >directories or only create the ones they need.
> > > >
> > > >-- Brooks
> > > >
> > > >Index: rc.d/cleartmp
> > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > >RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/etc/rc.d/cleartmp,v
> > > >retrieving revision 1.11
> > > >diff -u -p -r1.11 cleartmp
> > > >--- rc.d/cleartmp	7 Oct 2004 13:55:25 -0000	1.11
> > > >+++ rc.d/cleartmp	7 Jan 2005 00:31:51 -0000
> > > >@@ -35,5 +35,7 @@ run_rc_command "$1"
> > > ># restarting X
> > > >#
> > > >rm -f /tmp/.X[0-9]-lock
> > > >-rm -fr /tmp/.X11-unix
> > > >-mkdir -m 1777 /tmp/.X11-unix
> > > >+if [ -n ${clear_tmp_xdirs} ]; then
> > > >+	rm -fr ${clear_tmp_xdirs}
> > > >+	mkdir -m 1777 ${clear_tmp_xdirs}
> > > >+fi
> > > >Index: defaults/rc.conf
> > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > >RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf,v
> > > >retrieving revision 1.235
> > > >diff -u -p -r1.235 rc.conf
> > > >--- defaults/rc.conf	15 Dec 2004 12:39:28 -0000	1.235
> > > >+++ defaults/rc.conf	7 Jan 2005 00:30:49 -0000
> > > >@@ -443,6 +443,8 @@ linux_enable=3D"NO"	# Linux binary compati
> > > >svr4_enable=3D"NO"	# SysVR4 emulation loaded at startup (or NO).
> > > >osf1_enable=3D"NO"	# Alpha OSF/1 emulation loaded at startup (or NO).
> > > >clear_tmp_enable=3D"NO"	# Clear /tmp at startup.
> > > >+clear_tmp_xdirs=3D"/tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.font-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix"
> > > >+			# Directories needed by X11
> > > >ldconfig_insecure=3D"NO"	# Set to YES to disable ldconfig security
> > > >checks
> > > >ldconfig_paths=3D"/usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib
> > > >/usr/local/lib/compat/pkg"
> > > >			# shared library search paths
> > >
> > > I recall putting this in a conf PR, try a follow-up.
> > >
> > > But I think your patch is a little bit wrong
> > >
> > > I never like the way X11 is  taken by  /etc/rc.d/cleartmp.  none must=
 be
> > > do after the run_rc_command.
> >
> > That's easy enough to fix.
> >
> > > If we need do this from the base system (Thing that I doubt more and
> > > more), this must be implementing a new /etc/rc.d/clearx11tmp (this may
> > > be do in the main /etc/rc.d/cleartmp, like in sendmail), with all the
> > > bits: clear_x11tmp_enable, clear_x11tmp_dirs, ...
> > >
> > > But I must point that:
> > >
> > > X11 is now mostly a ports thing, not a base system component.  If this
> > > can be take from ports (I send-pr this also), this must be the path to
> > > the solution.  I put a simple script from libs, but I can work and rc=
NG
> > > enabled thing if prefered.
> > >
> > > This is not what x11 really needs.  x11 only needs some like this: mk=
dir
> > > -p ... && chown root:wheel ... && chmod 01777 ... .  this may be
> > > prefered by the x11 team.
> > >
> > > This can be taken both from base and ports without too much problem.
> > > The only secondary effect of this I know is that you may polite /tmp
> > > entries twice, with is not a real pain to the whole boot process.
> >
> > My worry with using your patch is that localpkg is run quite late in the
> > startup process, well after X may have tried to start if xdm is run from
> > /etc/ttys.
>=20
> Are you sure about that? I didn't look at any code now, but I'm quite sur=
e I=20
> never saw any system pop up a tty at me before running the local rc scrip=
ts=20
> (actually, the only thing that happens after the ttys are up is, to my=20
> knowledge, background fsck).

Looking briefly at init, it appears that ttys running X could be
initalized at any time after /usr is mounted.  init just spins with
30 second pauses while trying to start things it can't start the first
time.

-- Brooks

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