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Date:      Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:57:47 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Feature removal without replacement (was: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha machdep.c src/sys/conf NOTES)
Message-ID:  <20020410145747.C22430@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <4868.1018415500@critter.freebsd.dk>
References:  <20020410143519.B22430@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4868.1018415500@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On Wednesday, 10 April 2002 at  7:11:40 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <20020410143519.B22430@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey"
> writes:
>> On Wednesday, 10 April 2002 at  6:59:53 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>>> In message <20020410095141.M9535@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" w
>>> rites:
>>>
>>>> Why do we need to cut Uesrconfig out until there's some replacement?
>>>
>>> Suggest you revisit the cvs log for a blow by blow account.
>>
>> Which one?
>
> The one you appearantly missed two years ago when userconfig
> disappeared.

And you expect me to know that's the one you mean?

> And why can't you summarize.
>
> I could, except this happened nearly two years ago, so I would have
> expected that you had noticed by now:
>
>> revision 1.260
>> date: 2000/06/13 22:28:46;  author: peter;  state: Exp;  lines: +40 -46
>> Borrow phk's axe and apply the next stage of config(8)'s evolution.
>> <snip>
>> userconfig will be rewritten to use this style interface one day and will
>> move to /boot/userconfig.4th or something like that.

I don't see any evidence there that this meant that userconfig was
going away.

>>>> Specifically, what do people do when they're installing the system
>>>> from CD on an old ISA machine?  It looks like they're stuck.
>>>
>>> They uses the loader and their hints file.
>>
>> Is that documented?  This looks very much like hand-washing to me.
>
> And your email sounds like somebody who is a little too jumpy about
> my commits and who can't be bothered to check his own facts...

Well, that's what I was doing.  And yes, since it hasn't been
documented anywhere (not even in the commit log), I'm a little jumpy.
We're still telling people in the documentation that Userconfig is
functional, and I believe it still is in -STABLE.  But there's nothing
in UPDATING, and to me it looks like you've decided we don't need it
any more.

Greg
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