Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 19:44:24 -0400 From: Coleman Kane <cokane@one.net> To: David Nixon <david.nixon@mantech.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, chad@mantech.com Subject: Re: Attachments request -OOOOOPS Message-ID: <20000406194424.C11532@evil.2y.net> In-Reply-To: <s8ecb9ab.075@CORP-GW.mantech.com>; from david.nixon@mantech.com on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 04:23:15PM -0400 References: <s8ecb9ab.075@CORP-GW.mantech.com>
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--eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Nixon had the audacity to say: >=20 > Oh, a pissing contest. >=20 indeed. Well, Mr. Nixon, thanks to vi+par, in two keystrokes, I managed to reformat all of your hideos paragraphs and keep the quoting. How do you like that, eh? You see, the long line of text typically gets wrapped around the quoting ( or are you used to the nice little solid line and indentation that Netscape or Outlook place the quotation in?) properly! > Inserting hard carriage returns at every 80 characters (right hand > margin) is neither a standard nor a requirement. Please be kind > enough to point me and the rest of this mailing list to a FAQ or > an RFC that specifies that carriage returns MUST be used. That way > the Mailing List Police can directly quote the text to those of us > "nonconformists". It's a rather unspoken rule that has been followed by everyone up until the new gaggle of HTML emailers that obviously don't give a rats ass what your mail looks like under and other mailer. It's kind of like turning off the bold colon in IRC. > wrapmargin=3D0 I am sure you have seen this in your .exrc file. Be kind > enough to explain to me why vi has set as a default NOT to insert > carriage returns at the right margin. We can then deduce form your tag > quote that Microsoft has somehow taken over vi and force upon them a > dreaded and feared Microsoft standard. > Well, since you are obviously full of shit, vi doesn't auto wrap because that was how it was designed to run on the old VT's. Older versions of vi didn't have things like large multi-line displays and such. Auto word wrap was neither a concern or a help back then, it would have messed up the output on some of those old terminals. > And while I have already mentioned Microsoft standard!?!?!? Try > Palm Pilot, GroupWise (Novell) e-mail server, GroupWise Web e-mail > interface and GroupWise client (local and remote). Isn't it amazing > what you can get to run on a BSD box. With Novell opening up their NDS > it will only get better. We could be seeing NDS for BSD real soon. > There is already E-directory (NDS lite) for Linux. > I really don't get why you put this here, unless you are expecting to get some sort of reward for pitching this to us. I never really considered using Novell NDS, and don't really see the point in using it, or E-directory for that matter, under a unix system except to work with Novell software. If I set up a network, I'd probably replace Novell boxen with FreeBSD workstations/servers. If they really, really wanted some sort of mountable connectivity and authentication for their Windows (ugh!) boxes, then I would probably put samba on there. Problem with Novell is that they want you to take all these expensive classes to be "qualified" to work on their software. In high school, we had two CNA's who had no concept of what the internet really was, the existence of unix, or that a PC could even run something other than Windows. One of them, who kicked me out of her computer for being a "dirty hacker" because I opened MS Word from the start menu rather than the icon on the desktop, told me that DOS was in the computer's system. I laughed at her and walked away. Because of this, I have considered the CNA to be a monkey certificate, and don't really trust anything novell makes based on the fact= that they certify morons for their software. -- --cokane > > David A. Nixon Network Security Engineer ManTech International Corp. > www.ManTech.com > --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE47SFXERViMObJ880RASuNAJ43V1u3axWklj16s3iFp8B7cOm7qQCgvvCn k3Gw96rpisc0L+by4tSkrF8= =RaPn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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