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Date:      Sat, 16 May 2020 23:11:24 +0100
From:      Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>
To:        John Howie <john@thehowies.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life
Message-ID:  <20200516231124.c6f04e4f3f9c0b9e492b11ea@sohara.org>
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On Sat, 16 May 2020 21:19:43 +0000
John Howie <john@thehowies.com> wrote:

> On 5/16/20, 1:53 PM, "owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org on behalf of
> Steve O'Hara-Smith" <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org on behalf of
> steve@sohara.org> wrote:
> 
>     	These days I think most users should be running -release,
>     installing packages, using freebsd-update and not going anywhere near
>     sources.
> 
> LOL! I wish that were the case. I am elbow deep in source code every time
> I touch the FreeBSD box. I think you mean "end-users". For those of us

	Indeed I mean end users - hopefully most users are end users.

> writing system and toolchain code it is not an option. We have to start

	Indeed for developers source code and the branches are essential,
once upon a time they were essential for end users, now they should be
avoided by end users.

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