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Date:      Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:51:31 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
To:        naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Cc:        freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3Com 905-TX (was: Re: SCSI devices settling and illegal request)
Message-ID:  <15132.54739.586471.534822@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>
In-Reply-To: <9fihk9$26fc$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de>
References:  <15132.765.786027.851646@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010604165948.A18399@arrakis.tamu.edu> <15132.9118.863339.708828@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <9fihk9$26fc$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de>

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You might want to move this to -net.  Its almost certainly not alpha
specific.

And to be sure about duplex, use netperf.  If you have bad results
with a TCP_STREAM and good results with a UDP_STREAM, then you have a
duplex problem.

Drew


Christian Weisgerber writes:
 > Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu> wrote:
 > 
 > > Yes.  And, in fact, 3com (and intel etherexpress pro) cards are
 > > generally a better choice than tulip based nics because they can do
 > > byte-aligned DMA,
 > 
 > This reminds me of an annoying problem I'm seeing here.
 > 
 > OpenBSD 2.9/i386 (fxp) ------> Switch ------> FreeBSD 5.0/alpha (xl)
 > 
 > 100 Mbit/s full duplex all the way.
 > 
 > I'm seeing what must be significant package loss during bulk
 > transfers in this direction.  The reverse direction works fine.
 > My main application where the problem becomes apparent is that I
 > run Opera on the i386 box and use the alpha as X Display.  Opera
 > window updates slow to a crawl.  It also affects bulk transfers
 > through ftp/rcp/rsh.  Transfer rates collapse to a couple of kB/s.
 > Simple [rs]login text sessions don't suffer.  The problem exists
 > after a reboot of the alpha, but seems to eventually disappear.
 > 
 > This looks a whole lot like a full/half duplex problem, but both
 > hosts think that they're in full duplex mode and the switch agrees.
 > 
 > I also have an OpenBSD 2.8/i386 (fxp) box there.  It suffers the
 > same problem for bulk transfers to the alpha.  All other combinations
 > between hosts work fine.
 > 
 > FreeBSD-current from about May 14, PC164.
 > 3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL.  The card is fairly old, so I
 > assume it isn't a -B, -C, etc model.
 > 
 > The problem could be newish, because I used to run backups from
 > other hosts to the alpha and that worked fine.
 > 
 > -- 
 > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de
 > 
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