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Date:      Thu, 21 May 1998 00:09:14 +1000 (EST)
From:      Peter Hawkins <thepish@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Satoshi Asami <asami@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-share@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc make.conf src/share/mk bsd.README bsd.port.mk
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980520235220.16670A-100000@dana.clari.net.au>
In-Reply-To: <199805192013.NAA00834@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>

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>Um, please run changes to bsd.port.mk by me -- I'm the maintainer of
>that file. :)

Sorry Satoshi-san if you want it reversed, tell me. My error - I misunderstood
something.

>Sorry I didn't comment on PR when it came in (why was it labeled
>"misc"?)

Well at the time (I wasn't a committer - didn't know you etc) I searched
the online PRs and found mk reports spread evenly across ports, misc and bin
so I took a punt as I recall :) Now I know you, I know you follow ports and
so I'd choose that.

>but I don't think this is a good idea.  You have changed a
>single variable (MASTER_SITE_BACKUP) that needs to be changed to a
>whole bunch of others.  /etc/make.conf is already long enough as it
>is.

I'm not sure I agree - Tweeking with that is complicated. Yes it can be
done, but it's set up as *if* this is the site to look at when ftp.freebsd
is unavailable. Asking a newbie to track down the names of mirrors
for themselves is a lot to ask. I have been using these patches myself
to speed up access from Australia and it's great.

For one thing, as I'm outside Australia I *want* to go to my local mirror
*BEFORE* the port's master site. I have an FTP server with many of the
distfiles and I want machines on my lan to go there before *anywhere* else
This makes an immense difference.

>Also, "locale" means something totally different in the computer
>world, it's not a country.

Perhaps "locale" isn't the best name in the world but I didn't want to
choose "country" as it's more a regional thing - what are the sites *near*
me? So I was thinking along the same lines as other "local configurations"
a la the locale settings. New zealanders and Papua New Guineans, for example,
would use the same setting as I do.

However mk is your baby and I screwed up in patching not realising you
were supposed to know. If you want this reversed while we toss it about
and decide if its wanted, that would be entirely reasonable and I will.
I still think it's good functionality and good user-friendliness...

Cheers,
Peter

Hilink Internet            Peter Hawkins
381 Swan St Richmond,      
Vic, Australia             Ph: +61-3-9421 2006 Fax: +61-3-9421 2007
http://www.hilink.com.au   Peter@hilink.com.au

FreeBSD Project:           thepish@FreeBSD.org




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