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Date:      Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:23:25 -0500 (EST)
From:      Jt <hometeam@techpower.net>
To:        Gabor Kincses <gabor@acm.org>
Cc:        Satoshi Asami <asami@FreeBSD.ORG>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9901211322410.70422-100000@techpower.net>
In-Reply-To: <36A75DD4.41C67EA6@acm.org>

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I cvsuped RELENG_3 and my kernel says 3.0-stable...I thought it would
be 3.1 ?


On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Gabor Kincses wrote:

> Satoshi Asami wrote:
> > 
> > Hello world,
> > 
> > Well, the time has finally come.  The 3.0 tree was branched to
> > 3.1-stable (RELENG_3) and 4.0-current (HEAD) today.
> > 
> > As has been announced before, the support for the 2.2 branch by the
> > ports team has now officially ended.  New ports will no longer
> > required to be tested on 2.2.  Also, ELF has been the default format
> > for the 3.0 branch for some time, so now seems like a good time to
> > declare the end of a.out support too.
> > 
> > We will not yank 2.2/a.out support from existing ports, but will not
> > require 2.2 or a.out support be preserved across port updates either.
> > This means that the numbef of ports that can be compiled on 2.2 will
> > slowly decrease over time.  In a few months' time, I will remove all
> > 2.2/a.out support from bsd.port*.mk.  That will finally free us from
> > all the kludges we had to put into the system and the ports tree in
> > order to make a smooth (relatively speaking -- don't laugh) transition
> > from 2.2/a.out to 3.0/ELF.
> > 
> > I will build the final snapshot of packages-2.2-stable tonight and put
> > it up on ftp.freebsd.org.  It will be kept there for a few months, but
> 
> I have three 2.2.5 machines (also have the CDs), but some of the ports
> have much better versions in the latest 2.2 ports collection.  Since
> these boxes perform exceptionally well, I have a really hard time
> justifying my mocking around with them.  At the same time the need
> occasionally arises to pick up a port from the CD.  It would be a real
> shame if the 2.2 ports collection disappeared for ever.  I know, earlier
> versions like 2.0.5, 2.1.7 were also wiped out at some point, but the
> subsequent releases didn't remove such fundamental features like a.out
> support...
> 
> So why the rush?  Why not just keep a final 2.2 snapshot around (for a
> few years) for those not willing to just yet plunge into 3.0?  Is
> diskspace cost the limiting factor?
> 
> Once again, I'm not asking for support, just availability.
> 
> -- 
> Gabor Kincses
> (gabor@acm.org)
> FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE
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