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Date:      Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:57:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Doug <Doug@gorean.org>
To:        Robert Nordier <rnordier@nordier.com>
Cc:        MIHIRA Yoshiro <sanpei@sanpei.org>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: comconsole
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9906291251590.20335-100000@dt054n86.san.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <199906291636.SAA28420@ceia.nordier.com>

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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Robert Nordier wrote:

> > >> > 	Once you get the login prompt set up, redirecting the boot
> > >> > messages should be easy. First, the COMCONSOLE kernel option is now
> > >> > deprecated, see the sio options in LINT for more details. Also, you should
> > >> > read the info in the /boot directory, and read the man pages for loader
> > >> > and boot. At this point the easiest way to use the -P option is to put
> > >> > 'boot -P' as the last line of your /boot/loader.rc file. 
> > >> 
> > >> A -P option to boot is ignored.  Put the -P in /boot.config.

	Hrrm... it works fine in /boot/loader.rc on -current, maybe it
doesn't work in -stable. My apologies if so. 

> >   When I setup server box(without VGA console, 3.1-RELEASE), 
> > I added ``set console=comconsole'' to /boot/loader.rc.
> > Also enable serial console getty in /etc/ttys
> > 
> >   Which method is better for serial(com) console?
> 
> If you are using a serial console, it is generally best to enable it
> as soon as possible. 

	Agreed, however there are two issues here. First, the man pages
all say that /boot.config is deprecated. Also, what I'd *really* like to
do is get a 'boot -P' in as early as possible, then still have the
autoboot option in loader. As far as I can see, that's just not possible,
although I'd love to be proven wrong. 

> There is a lot of stuff that happens before
> loader(8) gets control.  The flow is roughly as follows:
> 
>     boot1
>     btx
>     boot2
>     btxldr
>     btx
>     loader

	Wow.... where were you last week when I asked for a list like
this. :-/  Could you add one more detail to this list, namely what config
files get executed when in this schedule? It would be really helpful to
me, and I'm sure others. I've read the man pages till I'm going loopy on
them and it's sinking in very slowly, but not fully there yet. 
 
> To avoid missing potentially informative diagnostics, etc., the best
> place to start the serial console is therefore in boot2, using one
> of the options -D, -P, or -h, according to needs and preference.

	I'm assuming that by this you mean to put it in /boot.config?

Thanks for the feedback,

Doug
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