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Date:      Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:27:56 -0400
From:      Andy Sparrow <spadger@best.com>
To:        ian j hart <ianjhart@ntlworld.com>
Cc:        Andy Sparrow <spadger@best.com>, Andrea Monaldi <magic_mac_96@yahoo.com>, David Sieb rger <drs@rucus.ru.ac.za>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Cannot initialize disklabel 
Message-ID:  <20020727222756.4917A171@CRWdog.demon.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: Message from ian j hart <ianjhart@ntlworld.com>  of "Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:40:59 BST." <3D43136B.6090801@ntlworld.com> 

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>  > Every time I've upgraded any HDD since ~4.2, I've attempted to
>  > install FreeBSD directly without using any other OS. Each time, it's
>  > failed due to fdisk using some strange geometry, which the BIOS can't
>  > boot from afterwards (they've almost all been "large" drives, all
>  > IDE). I had this problem most recently about a week ago, upgrading my
>  > laptop drive to 40GB with a 4.6-RELEASE CD.
> 
> Are you seriously saying that you have NEVER managed to install FBSD
> without this kludge?

Not at all. I installed most of the 2.x & 3.x series on different hardware 
multiple times without a hitch. Of course, those were mostly on smaller HDDs - 
and the BIOSes on those machines are pretty ancient by now...

But my laptop has a circa 2000 BIOS, and FreeBSD wouldn't install without the 
workaround on the 6GB drive it came with, IIRC.

> If I were you I'd have complained by now.

??? I've got a workaround that hasn't failed yet, and it's a known problem, to 
the extent of being documented in the handbook.

I'm mostly concerned about the possible impact on people who want to try the 
OS, decide they can't get it work, and try something else. That can only hurt 
us, I think.

However, it's a known problem for which there is a workaround. *shrug*. This 
is a volunteer project, and there are other things I'd personally rather see 
fixed.

Anyone posting to -questions about getting "OS Not Found" after sysinstall 
would get the right answers pretty quick, I'd think. We'll probably lose the 
ones that don't ask, but they're probably better suited to a life as 
Penguinistas anyway... :)

Cheers,

AS


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