Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 20:17:38 -0500 From: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: Fongaboo <freebsd-questions@fongaboo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OS to replace FreeBSD Message-ID: <766AC454-804B-492E-B547-E2399C07D0CD@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.20.2103202004020.43265@h4lix.wtfayla.net> References: <alpine.BSF.2.20.2103202004020.43265@h4lix.wtfayla.net>
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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 7:05 PM, Fongaboo <freebsd-questions@fongaboo.com> = wrote: >=20 >=20 > I see there have been a ton of responses to this already. I could be = wrong, but I'm going to assume most of it is OS-wars. I don't have time = to pour through it all. If I'm off-base and out of context, please = forgive me. But wanted to offer my experience: >=20 > After nearly two decades of self-hosting DNS/mail/web on a FreeBSD = colo, I decided I couldn't give FreeBSD the focus and energy it needs to = be properly maintained. >=20 > I've found that Debian was the most comfortable to transition to and = is a bit more painless to keep updated and patched. I've just completed = a Debian box running NSD, unbound, Apache, Postfix, Dovecot, = Postfixadmin & Roundcube. If Jerry decides to move that way, your post may help him, so thanks = from Jerry in advance. To balance what you said I just add my experience of opposite move: from = Linux to FreeBSD, and my servers are happily FreeBSD for about a decade. = And that move from Linux to FreeBSD a lot of advantages and solved quite = a number of problems Linux was giving me. But numbercrunchers and = workstations I maintain for the department are Linux (and some = workstations are MacOS, andMS Windows). The search where to flee from Linux began after switch from 2.4 to 2.6 = kernel. Actually some time - over a year - after that, when it became = too annoying: every 45 days on average: either glibc or kernel security = update =3D=3D> reboot. One of my friends started using the word Lindoze = (implying irreverent name of known commercial system requiring reboot = after update which happens often). Search for the system where to flee from Linux took a couple of years. = Open solaris was considered at some point as a candidate. About a time = when Oracle bough out Sun Microsystems. And the joke after that = acquisition was: how do we call their system now? Well, repeat many = times sun-oracle faster and faster, and you will get it right: snorkel. Jokes aside: FreeBSD ended up a choice, and very sound one. It is the = highest used of BSD descendants (I will not count here commercial ones). = Incidentally, Microsoft was once noticed running FreeBSD on a couple of = their servers. Reboots are rare: once or twice a year the most often. = Jails allow easily juggle a bunch of small servers (each being a jail on = a machine hosting 10-20 jails). Some of the servers do not even exists = as an individual system: they are composed of several jails, each = running one (or few inseparable) services; people can ssh to the server, = they appear just in separate jail where no other services (except for = sshd) run. And the list of conveniences goes on. I hope this helps to balance Fongaboo=E2=80=99s post ;-) Valeri > If you want to email me directly, I documented the whole process. I'm = willing to share my walkthroughs. >=20 >=20 > Fong >=20 >=20 > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021, Jerry wrote: >=20 >> With the soon-to-be release of version 13 of FreeBSD and the EOL of >> FreeBSD 11.x, I will need to invest in a new OS. Due to FreeBSD?s >> unfortunate inability to squash bug >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237666, l am left >> with no choice but to seek out a new OS. I need a bare-bones system >> that can run a mail server, Postfix with Dovecot, and a few other >> utilities. >> --=20 >> Jerry >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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