Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:16:45 +0200 From: "DJ Boris" <dj_boris@mail.ru> To: "Bill Moran" <wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup Message-ID: <006701c2ebe8$359a2630$f4cd07c4@d> References: <001f01c2ebc5$b67c7690$85cd07c4@d> <3E748FEE.9000902@potentialtech.com> <003001c2ebd0$32b73e70$85cd07c4@d> <3E74B1B3.1080306@potentialtech.com>
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I have supress-initial-notify set to yes as well... no change. my DNS forwarders do require a dial out to reach but I don't see why this should happen when I start up named. Up until now I was using a Windows NT4 server and I had a programme called WinRoutePro http://www.infoware.be/en/winroute/index.htm. I was using its DNS forwarder, its proxy server and its mail server to download mail from one ISP account with 5 alised email addresses and then users could collect it from the NT4 machine using a POP3 client. now I am trying to do all this with a freeBSD box. none of this was happening on the NT4 machine with WinRoutePro and that is why I am confused. I do want DNS forwarding to trigger DNS requests but why is it happening when I start named. I don't shutdown my DNS server often. this is just one little thing that is very annoying and I thought it was something small that I was missing. the reason that I start named manually and not from rc.conf is because if I put it in rc.conf the machine hangs at startup and I have to do Crtl-C in otder to get to the login prompt. when I disable it in rc.conf everything is OK... I presume is it because named tries to dial as soon as it starts when the machine hasn't started all its services.... (I might be wrong about this one) so this is a workaround. or may be it is something else ?!?!? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Moran" <wmoran@potentialtech.com> To: "DJ Boris" <dj_boris@mail.ru> Cc: "freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup > DJ Boris wrote: > > yes I have dialup yes. > > my named.conf is actually quite simple as I only use it for dns forwarding > > therefore I don't actually need to set the heartbeat-interval. if I start > > named, let it dial, wait for the ppp time out to expire and leave the system > > for days without any traffic it doesn't dial. so it is working properly. the > > only thing that I can't uinderstand is why named makes ppp dial out when it > > is only suppoed to forward dns requests. and I have no other app that does > > dns requests. > > I'm not 100% sure I understand you here. > You seem to think that forwarding DNS requests should not cause DNS to trigger > a dial. This would only be true if your forwarders did not require a dial to > reach. > I don't understand your concern with the fact that it dials on startup. Do > you start and stop the DNS server a lot? If you really need it to stop, add > suppress-initial-notify to yes. See if that helps. > > Hope I've said something here that is helpful. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Moran" <wmoran@potentialtech.com> > > To: "DJ Boris" <dj_boris@mail.ru> > > Cc: "freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> > > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:53 PM > > Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup > > > > > > > >>DJ Boris wrote: > >> > >>>hi there, > >>> > >>>I use named to only forward dns requests (if any). every time I start it > >>>(manually from the command line) it dials out. then the ppp times out > > > > after > > > >>>3 mins, connection gets dropped and everything geos back to normal. as > > > > soon > > > >>>as a dns request arrives ppp kicks in.. and so on and so on. > >>> > >>>in named.conf I have forward only and have set forwarders. so everything > > > > is > > > >>>OK but just that initial dial out at start up is annoying me. > >>> > >>>i have read named.conf manual and there is says that you can put "dialup > >>>yes" have done that but no luck and I think this option is more for > > > > proper > > > >>>dns and doesn't apply to dns forwarding > >> > >>Did you put the "dialup yes" as a global option? If not, it might only > > > > apply > > > >>to certain zones, and other zones will update as needed. > >> > >>Also, did you set the "heartbeat-interval"? I don't know what the default > > > > is, > > > >>but you'll probably want to set it pretty high. > >> > >>Also, the system will _always_ dial out if it doesn't have the DNS > > > > information > > > >>requested. > >> > >>Just some thoughts. > > -- > Bill Moran > Potential Technologies > http://www.potentialtech.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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