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Date:      Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:27:49 -0700
From:      Conrad Meyer <cem@freebsd.org>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <netchild@freebsd.org>
Cc:        src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>,  svn-src-head <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r363125 - head/sys/compat/linux
Message-ID:  <CAG6CVpXniVitnrk2qqnkGocHG%2BiPKHfPJ-KuRdaPKbNfTnrE=A@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Alexander,

On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 2:51 AM Alexander Leidinger
<netchild@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> Author: netchild
> Date: Sun Jul 12 09:51:09 2020
> New Revision: 363125
> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/363125
>
> Log:
>   Implement CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW (linux >=3D 2.6.28).
>
>   It is documented as a raw hardware-based clock not subject to NTP or
>   incremental adjustments. With this "not as precise as CLOCK_MONOTONIC"
>   description in mind, map it to our CLOCK_MONOTNIC_FAST (the same
>   mapping as for the linux CLOCK_MONOTONIC_COARSE).

Can you point at the documentation suggesting CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW is
any less precise than CLOCK_MONOTONIC?  I'm looking at the Linux
manual page and it does not seem to contain any language to that
effect.

>   This is needed for the webcomponent of steam (chromium) and some
>   other steam component or game.
>
>   The linux-steam-utils port contains a LD_PRELOAD based fix for this.
>   There this is mapped to CLOCK_MONOTONIC.
>   As an untrained ear/eye (=3D the majority of people) is normaly not
>   noticing a difference of jitter in the 10-20 ms range, specially
>   if you don't pay attention like for example in a browser session
>   while watching a video stream, the mapping to CLOCK_MONOTONIC_FAST
>   seems more appropriate than to CLOCK_MONOTONIC.

I don't know how these programs use the clock, but 10-20 ms of jitter
in the UI is noticeable to even casual users.  (In FreeBSD these
functions are purportedly accurate to 1 timer tick, which is 1ms on
HZ=3D1000 (amd64) =E2=80=94 much better than 10-20ms.)  However, I'm concer=
ned
this is still insufficient precision compared with the documented
behavior of the Linux functions.  I think regular CLOCK_MONOTONIC is
the closest thing we've got to Linux's CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW.  The Linux
analog of _FAST is _COARSE.

Best,
Conrad



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