Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 22:10:04 GMT From: "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net> To: gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/134122: multimedia/totem build fails Message-ID: <200905082210.n48MA4LS086481@freefall.freebsd.org>
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The following reply was made to PR ports/134122; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net> To: "Joe Kelsey" <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us> Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/134122: multimedia/totem build fails Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 17:08:00 -0500 On Fri, 08 May 2009 16:24:04 -0500, Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us> wrote: > Jeremy Messenger wrote: >> On Thu, 07 May 2009 22:07:46 -0500, Joe Kelsey >> <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us> wrote: >> >>> Jeremy Messenger wrote: >>>> marcus means that we want you to follow this: >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/bugging.html >>>> >>>> The multimedia/gstreamer-plugins has what the Totem's configure is >>>> looking for. >>>> >>> This is, in fact, a false statement. I performed the action of >> >> Uh? You can't say that because you have no clue. See here: >> >> --------------------------------------- >> # gst-inspect-0.10 playbin | grep /lib >> Filename: /usr/local/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstplaybin.so >> >> # grep playbin /usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/pkg-plist >> lib/gstreamer-%%VERSION%%/libgstplaybin.la >> lib/gstreamer-%%VERSION%%/libgstplaybin.so >> --------------------------------------- >> > Why in the world would I ever use the tool gst-inspect? What on earth > would lead you to believe that there was any way for me to even know > that such a tool either exists or had information to give me? Is there > ANY documentation ANY?WH?AER which explains that? I am not telling you to learn the gst-inspect or you are supposed to know this. I am merely answer to your question for where the 'playbin' is supposed to be from, which is gstreamer-plugins. You end up insult me by 'false statement', so I had to prove it to you. By the way, if you read in the configure and you will see that it calls on 'gst-inspect-0.10 playbin'. > The error message produced by the failed compilation mentions the word > "playbin" with no adornment. There is no HINT anywhere in the failed > compilation about which mysterious gstreamer executable caused this > problem or any hint anywhere about how to determine for myself that the > error actually has any meaning at all. > > I have no independent knowledge of gstreamer other than the gnome stuff > uses it and I must install it on my system. I install it and suddenly > things start breaking through no action of my own or any thing that I > can effectively trace. I try to trace it and Marcus yells at me for not > having detailed knowledge of the internal workings of a complex, > apparantly fragile infrastructure. > > I asked a simple question: what does this word "playbin" have to do with > anything and how to I find out. locate playbin produces no usefule > results. pkg_info playbin produces nothing. Saying it is a plugin > tells me nothing as I have already performed the action > > portupgrade -f gstreamer\* > > three or more times to no apparant effect. I didn't tell you to run this command. marcus even doesn't tell you to run it again. He is asking for the more info since you still get this build failure again. > So, Marcus yells at me and now you are doing the same. I don't see anything 'yell' in my first email, even second and even in marcus's emails. > What would lead you to believe that there is anything that would point > me toward "gst-inspecta" as something to use to explain the error > message. Perhads, the mysterious compilation error should indicate that > I am supposed to examine the gst-inspect executable and use its options > to figure things out. Perhaps gnomeloganalyzer could point out that > gst-inspect might have something to say. Perhaps you or Marcus could > point out the existence of gst-inspect and how to use it. > > Thank you so much for your completely useless advice. I haven't given you any advice. I am asking for the more info by follow the bugging.html, because you are the ONLY user that have this problem. You know what. I think I can safely close this PR since you are refusing us the more details. Therefore, we are going to use our time somewhere better. > /Joe > >>> portupgrade -f gstreamer\* >>> >>> at least THREE times before submitting a bug report. Joe, apparantly, >>> did not care to pay attention to what I wrote. >>> >>> I could not determine any emthod of solving the problem since no clues >>> existed anywhere on my system that I could find. No trace of anything >>> missing or not properly installed realted to gstreamer. No clue where >>> to find this mysterious "playbin" program without individually looking >>> at every single uninstalled port on the system and searching for the >>> file. >>> >>> The only thing that I could determine on my own was that totem kept >>> not building. >>> >>> The completely unhelpful message from marcus simply told me to do what >>> I had already done over, and over, and over and did not answer the >>> specific question that I asked: Where the heck is "playbin" and why >>> don't I have it? >> >> Already pointed you there about that it's in gstreamer-plugins. Can't >> help you without have you follow the bugging.html, because I have no >> and no clue without your detail. >> >> Cheers, >> Mezz >> >>> /Joe >>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Mezz -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org
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