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Date:      Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:55:25 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, "Robert N. M. Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: CTF patch for testing/review (was: Re: is dtrace usable?)
Message-ID:  <8E9F405D-0140-4C67-B7BD-94714E2DD109@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <201003220941.10525.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <E1Nnv0H-00020A-9M@kabab.cs.huji.ac.il> <201003100812.29749.jhb@freebsd.org> <20100322123408.16671ijbvmcyux80@webmail.leidinger.net> <201003220941.10525.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:41 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Monday 22 March 2010 7:34:08 am Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>> Redirecting from stable@ to arch@...
>>=20
>> Quoting John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> (from Wed, 10 Mar 2010 =
08:12:29=20
> -0500):
>>=20
>>> On Wednesday 10 March 2010 5:34:22 am Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>>>> Quoting "Robert N. M. Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org> (from Tue, 9 =
Mar
>>>> 2010 16:39:09 +0000):
>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> =46rom this you can see that sys.mk is included and parsed =
before
>>> 'Makefile',
>>>>>>> so the WITH_CTF=3Dyes is not set until after sys.mk has been =
parsed.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I think we need to find a different solution for this. The need =
to
>>>>>> specify WITH_CTF at the command line is very error prone. :(
>>>>>=20
>>>>> You are neither the first person to have made this observation, =
nor
>>>>> the first person to have failed to propose a solution in the form =
of
>>>>> a patch :-).
>>=20
>> Ok, here is the proposal in form of a patch. :-)
>>     http://www.leidinger.net/test/ctf.diff
>>=20
>>> Unfortunately the ctf stuff breaks static binaries.  I think that if =
=20
>>> that were
>>> fixed we would simply enable it by default and be done.
>>=20
>> The patch is:
>>  - enabling CTF stuff by default for the kernel
>>  - allows to disable the CTF stuff for the kernel by defining NO_CTF
>>  - *not* enabling the CTF stuff by default for libs and progs
>>    (if someone tells me how to distinguish the build for static
>>    stuff from dynamic stuff, I can have a look to enable it for
>>    the dynamic case)
>>  - allows to enable the CTF stuff for the userland by defining
>>    WITH_CTF as before
>=20
> I think this patch looks very interesting.  I think in some ways it =
would be=20
> nice to make CTF "opt-in" though instead of "opt-out".  I think the =
current=20
> patch would enable CTF when building ports, for example.   I think =
instead it=20
> should default to not building CTF, but require an ENABLE_CTF (instead =
of=20
> NO_CTF) to be set, and set that in bsd.kern.mk if WITH_CTF is defined.
>=20

I have a patch at Yahoo that makes WITH_CTF settable from the kernel =
config file, thus making it opt-in.  I'd prefer this as well to opt-out. =
 Give me a little bit to dig it up and polish it for review.

Scott




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