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Date:      Sat, 9 Oct 2004 23:09:00 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To:        Makoto Matsushita <matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What we keep under /etc
Message-ID:  <20041009200900.GA99102@ip.net.ua>
In-Reply-To: <20041010034658O.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.53.0410091546140.2113@e0-0.zab2.int.zabbadoz.net> <20041010011818G.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20041009182245.GB1737@FreeBSD.org> <20041010034658O.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org>

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On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 03:46:58AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote:
>=20
> For my understandings, that's why mergemaster(8) (or "check and help
> updating /etc files" tool) is there.  If mergemaster(8) behaves badly,
> we can fix it -- not changing what "make installworld" does.
>=20
> eivind> I think this is a good solution because this is not a merging
> eivind> problem, it is a mergemaster problem.
>=20
I'm with you guys.

> > Since mergemaster(8) is considered as a mandatory tool for admin (I
> > hope nobody objects),
>=20
> eivind> I object.
>=20
> Ouch:)  Yes I know that some users doesn't update /etc if installworld
> as you mentioned.  However, according to src/UPDATING, mergemaster(8)
> is listed in source-code upgrade procedure -- and many users knows
> what mergemaster(8) is.  Many guys mentioned to use mergemaster(8) on
> current@/stable@ list.  No matter what you dislike or not, it seems
> that it's mandatory one....
>=20
It's definitely not a mandatory tool.  I don't use neither
mergemaster(8) nor etcmerge(8), but what I do is precisely
what etcmerge(8) does (after I looked into it).  It seems
to do it all right (in my definition of correctness), so I
will likely give it a go.

> In anyway,
>=20
> eivind> The majority do (in order of frequence, high to low) manual
> eivind> updates or don't update /etc unless they have to or use
> eivind> etcmerge or write their own scripts.
>=20
> you also think that it would be better updating /etc files by some
> other tools (well, I'll try using etcmerge later, thank you), not by
> "make installworld", right?
>=20
Yes, count me in.  Updating /etc during installworld is a strict
"no no", for a lot of reasons.


Cheers,
--=20
Ruslan Ermilov
ru@FreeBSD.org
FreeBSD committer

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