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Date:      Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:00:18 -0500
From:      Chris BeHanna <behanna@zbzoom.net>
To:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: TV output turn on
Message-ID:  <200211101800.18129.behanna@zbzoom.net>
In-Reply-To: <20021110214715.AB22E304@CRWdog.demon.co.uk>
References:  <20021110214715.AB22E304@CRWdog.demon.co.uk>

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On Sunday 10 November 2002 04:47 pm, Andy Sparrow wrote:
> > >      My Dell laptop has a ATI M3 video card, with an S-video
> > > output.
> > >
> > >      How do I turn on the S-video output with my FreeBSD
> > > 4.7-stable?
> > >
> > > [...snip...]
> > >
> > >      I "need" this on FreeBSD in order to run ogle to watch a
> > > European DVD which I can't seem to watch any other ways which I
> > > have tried, but won't go into here.
>
> Have you tried 'mplayer'? It seems to be more flexible (and faster,
> smoother, etc.) for most of the DVD's I own.

    Ditto, although the video/audio sync sometimes has to be adjusted by
+/- 200ms.  Ogle has also gotten much, much better of late, and offers 
DVD menu
support.

> >     This functionality is not yet supported in XFree86.
>
> Yup.
>
> >     *IF* you can hack v4l (video4linux) to work on FreeBSD, then
> > the GATOS project's atitvout package might help you.  You will need
> > drm working as well.
>
> Hmm? I don't see how v4l will make any difference? I could (easily
> ;-) be wrong, but I thought video4linux was video-capture-related?

    My reading of the GATOS website suggests that atitvout is built on
top of video4linux, which, in addition to video capture, also attempts
to pull some of the lower level Xlib functionality into the kernel and
present a common API to video in/out tools.

    I could (easily :-) be wrong, but I did spend quite some time on
this, hoping to make better use of my Radeon VIVO.  I ended up buying
a Hauppauge WinTV Go! card to get by for now.

> I use the Gatos ATI drivers on my Mobility M1 to provide XvImage
> support (hardware scaling and color transform), and they work great.

    Indeed they do.  Last crack, they didn't build against XFree86
4.2.x (one of the Radeon chip constants got bifurcated in X, but GATOS
didn't track this change).  Perhaps this has been fixed by now--I miss
having hardware scaling on my laptop, and I haven't had time to bake
and contribute a patch.

> drm and dri are not available for the Rage 128 Mobility M1, so I
> don't see how they are necessary to use the Gatos stuff...

    They're needed for v4l, which in turn is (I believe) needed for
atitvout.

    If someone shows me to be wrong, I'll be *ecstatic*.  I'd love to
yank out the WinTV card and put a slot fan in its place.  There's
nothing wrong with the WinTV card, mind you, and this is not a knock
at Hauppauge; I just hate having redundant cards in my machine.

> It's probably worth trying just installing Gatos and seeing if
> 'atitvout' works - I'd try it here, but I don't have TVOUT on my
> M1...
>
> >     You could, of course, just watch the DVD on your laptop.
>
> Heh. After two years of using my laptop to do just that, I'm
> astonished how much better (particularly more vibrant colors)
> everything looks on a CRT since I started docking it... :-)

    Iiyama.  The only way to fly.  :-)

-- 
Chris BeHanna                      http://www.pennasoft.com 
Principal Consultant                
PennaSoft Corporation               
chris@pennasoft.com                 

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