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Date:      Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:02:01 -0700
From:      Will Andrews <will@csociety.org>
To:        Scott Long <scott_long@btc.adaptec.com>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, dirk@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current
Message-ID:  <20021018210201.GJ19874@procyon.firepipe.net>
In-Reply-To: <20021018073701.GA71980@hollin.btc.adaptec.com>
References:  <20021018073701.GA71980@hollin.btc.adaptec.com>

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On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:37:02AM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
> The ports collection is one of the crown jewels of FreeBSD.
> Unfortunately, even as more ports committers are added, more and
> more ports break or become harder to build.  On top of that, 
> pkg_add has become close to worthless now that the -r feature
> is so fragile.  If 5.0 goes out and popular ports don't build,
> it will hurt the image of FreeBSD.  Please, take a break from
> adding new ports and/or maintaining your pet ports and fix some
> of the broken-ness.

So, just to make sure I get this straight:

1) Somebody commits a patch to -CURRENT without doing the
   slightest bit of analysis of its damage to ports, discussing
   it with the ports list, or even a HEADS UP or patch suggestions.
2) Tons of ports break.
3) Therefore, ports people should fix the breakage.

Yah, right.  Exactly why I don't use -CURRENT for much of
anything nowadays.  Too many people breaking stuff without
bothering to fix it themselves in any way.  So, why don't you
encourage -CURRENT developers to treat ports like the crown jewel
it is instead of pestering ports developers to fix their breakage?

Regards,
-- 
wca

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