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Date:      Thu, 18 May 2000 02:57:03 +0530
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
To:        Shawn Barnhart <swb@grasslake.net>
Cc:        Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: better than pine?
Message-ID:  <20000518025703.G16497@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
In-Reply-To: <002c01bfc043$ff4a8980$b8209fc0@marlowe>; from swb@grasslake.net on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 04:08:06PM -0500
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10005162201530.75114-100000@home.offwhite.net> <200005171727.KAA09714@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU> <20000517202936.H21557@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <002c01bfc043$ff4a8980$b8209fc0@marlowe>

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> | ben@strontium:~$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/{mutt,slrn,pine}
> | -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   367592  7 Nov  1999 /usr/local/bin/mutt*
> | -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2374520  5 Jun  1999 /usr/local/bin/pine*
> | -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   171532  2 Jan 21:20 /usr/local/bin/slrn*
> |
> | Pine is over four times bigger than my mail client and news client put
> | together.  Why??  From what I've seen, Pine is a featureless pile of
> | junk.  It doesn't even do colours or threading.  How on earth is Pine
> | over 2MB??  Is it entering the "most bloated communications program"
> | competition alongside Outlook Express or something?
> |
> 
> Being a Pine user and not a user of the other two, do they include a
> built-in editor of any value?  An IMAP client?  That warm, user-friendly
> interface that reminds you of your first UNIX account during the heady days
> at University, that girl with the soft, brown hair, er, nevermind.

The new version of Mutt (1.2) seems to handle imap about as well as
pine does, and isn't much larger than earlier (388744 bytes on my
FreeBSD machine).  It doesn't include an editor, but you can use
pico or vi or whatever you like and you can even edit the headers
of your mail inside the editor (which of course means you can shoot
yourself in the foot).

> (Although even pico+mutt+slrn < pine).

R.


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