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Date:      Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:15:35 -0500
From:      Jeffrey Dunitz <orpheus@lemieux.hockey.net>
To:        Darren Martin <darren@premier1.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: As is FreeBSD!
Message-ID:  <19980923211535.A22640@lemieux.hockey.net>
In-Reply-To: <000801bde714$e7d1f220$02000003@pavilion>; from Darren Martin on Wed, Sep 23, 1998 at 10:09:12AM -0700
References:  <000801bde714$e7d1f220$02000003@pavilion>

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On Wed, Sep 23, 1998 at 10:09:12AM -0700, Darren Martin said something
like:
>
Please, 78 characters per line. It's not just a good idea, 
it's...er wait. :)
>
> I am becoming an internet service provider, and am looking for
>an all-in-one package that will handle all the standard internet
>serviced(HTTP, FTP, USENET,POP,SMTP)and even the selling dial-up internet
>access accounts to customers. I am also setting up a RealVideo Server
>and am wondering if there is any FreeBSD application that handles that
>as well.  

If you're going to be an ISP, i suggest you rethink the idea of
having your FreeBSD box be your dialup server. While it's true that
FreeBSD can handle this, I can tell you from experience that it really
really sucks to do it that way. Save yourself the hassle up front and 
get something like one of those Cisco things that has the modems 
built in, or one of the USRobotics TotalControl deals. More expensive
up front, but an order of magnitude more reliable than individual modems,
no matter what you have them connected to.

> What kind of hardware is most compatible with FreeBSD(CSU/DSU,
>Routers, etc). I am getting an ADSL line soon for my access company. We
>are also doing business web hosting and I am wondering about on-line
>commerce, and multiple domain-names.  

As far as network hardware, don't buy garbage, and you should be fine.
There isn't really much of a compatibility issue there at all--any good
brand of router doesn't care if there's a freebsd box, an NT box, a Sun, 
an SGI or whatever behind it. Packets is packets. My personal opinion is
go with ADC/Kentrox or BAT CSUs, Cisco routers, Lantronix, SVEC, or
Allied Telesyn hubs, and, for the love of crap, get decent cat5 cables
made by someone good, like Belden or Anixter. Follow my advice, and I
can pretty much guarantee you a network that works.

Can't tell you anything about RealVideo. I don't know anything about it.
There's probably server software  for FreeBSD, if it's not just handled
by Apache or whatever web server you want to use.

> Also, and this is a biggie...Can I
>install it alongside other operating systems so I can choose a dual-boot
>option. I have windows 98, and windows NT(for Studio Max, and other
>Graphic/Multimedia creation) and I would like to be able to use them
>too. I hope it doesn't reformat any part of my hard-drive on installation!

yes, you have to repartition. There are tools that will let you do this
without having to completely reinstall your other OSes. However, you can't
very well be providing net services  on your machine and then say "oh, 
I gotta reboot now, because I have to edit these images...". You need
several boxes anyway, so what's the point? You're going to want one
box as a home directory and/or web server, one as  a primary DNS, one
as a secondary DNS, and a mailserver (you can use the DNS server  as 
a mail machine, I guess.


> How does it compare to Linux as far as features, speed, and ease of use?

FreeBSD seems about as fast as linux. From a user perspective, there's
not much difference; the /proc file system in linux has more stuff in 
it, and the general file system layout is a little different. Ease of
use is about the same. Almost all the software you'd  find as RedHat RPMs
are available as tarball packages for  FreeBSD. The big area where you'll
notice differences between linux and FreeBSD is the programming environment.
FreeBSD is a traditional BSD system, linux is a SysV-ish type system with
lots of it's own weird stuff tossed in. It could be said that FreeBSD is
more "standard"--if that means anything anyway.

> If you could recommend any FreeBSD applications that would help me
>do any or all of the things I have listed(If it's not already capable
>of them out "out of the box!"  

Use sendmail (standard, well-known) or qmail (nonstandard, more secure, but
not as well known as sendmail) for SMTP service. Qpopper or CUCIpop for
POP3, inn or cnews for NNTP service, and apache for HTTP service. Pretty
much any other network service you need comes with the system. The
ones I just mentioned either are installed by default or are free packages.


> Any help you could give me with these
>questions would be greatly appreciated.  

Hope that helps.

> Thank You, 
> Darren.
>
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