Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:08:38 -0600 From: "Jason Halbert" <jason@jason-n3xt.org> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, "Kenneth Wayne Culver" <culverk@wam.umd.edu> Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Forrest Aldrich" <forrie@forrie.com> Subject: Re: ADSL with Verizon Message-ID: <0fe401c166dd$4bd4d710$2af9620c@jason> References: <000901c166a7$12aec620$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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Actually... their are 3 separate companies. You have the actual phone company Verizon. They own the ILEC. The company that provides the DSL service and T lines and above line is Verizon Advanced Data Services. They are separate companies due to FCC regulations. Then you have VerizonOnline the ISP. ---- Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Kenneth Wayne Culver" <culverk@wam.umd.edu> Cc: "Jason Halbert" <jason@jason-n3xt.org>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; "Forrest Aldrich" <forrie@forrie.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 03:40 Subject: RE: ADSL with Verizon > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Kenneth Wayne Culver [mailto:culverk@wam.umd.edu] > >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:06 AM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: Jason Halbert; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Forrest Aldrich > >Subject: RE: ADSL with Verizon > > > > > >> yes - but that difference is only of consequence to the end user (you) > >> and the ISP. (the thing on the other end of the DSL line that your > >> connected to) It's just ATM packets to the Telco. Don't confuse the > >> ISP (the thing on the other end of the DSL circuit to you) with the > >> circuit provider. (the Telco) > > > >If he's with verizon on the east coast of the US, then the ISP and the > >circuit provider are the same company. (BTW, if you look at dslreports, > >most of the reviews of verizon say it's not that great) > > > > I'm not so sure about that - Verizon has recently begun fracturing itself > internally into multiple companies, all operating under the Verizon name. > I am getting extremely pissed off at them now - you cannot even call in > to Verizon's test and turn up department test on a god damn T1 without > being told "we can't tell you anything about that because the ILEC hasn't > released it back to us" when the ILEC is Verizon!!! > > I am positive though that verizon.net (the Verizon ISP) and Verizon.com > (the people that own the phone lines and provide the DSL signalling on > it) are indeed different companies that are what you call "completely seperate > and independent companies that just happen to share the same name" that > statement was right out of a Verizon reps mouth. It's enough to drive > you insane. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > >Ken > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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