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Date:      Sat, 10 May 1997 12:33:10 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        hasty@rah.star-gate.com, chuckr@mat.net, moore@WOLFENET.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: g++ shared library segfaults
Message-ID:  <199705101933.MAA04308@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <17949.863236840@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at May 9, 97 09:00:40 pm

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> > Qt looks pretty good to me replace it by something better and I will 
> > consider it.
> 
> I thought we were talking about document prep systems - now we're
> evaluating GUI toolkits on their own, independant merit?   I'm
> confused. :-)

Don't be so quick to judge.

I wanted a single UI program to talk to command line administration
programs that obeyed a given set of interactor semantics.  So I wrote
a set of command line tools for administering user accounts... all
the whistles -- UID, GID, renaming, renumbering, relocation of account
directories, etc., etc..

The idea was to have user tools, disk management tools, service
administration tools, etc..  Basically, an NT 4.0 type UI for UNIX,
with about 15-20 actual programs backing it.

Then I came up with an interactor grammar for talking to the command
line utilities -- command line options and statting of stdin to see
if it was a pipe, etc., etc..

Then I started writing an X based UI, but decided that the only way
it would ever fly is if the UI had a standard look and feel, and the
closest thing UNIX has to a standard is Motif.

So I started writing a Motif clone to support the X based UI (it now
runs all of the Young sample code pixel-for-pixel identically to the
real Motif, but isn't quite there yet, and it looks like ELF is
finally going to remove my objections to LGPL, so I haven't hacked
on it in six months).


I basically work on any of these pieces when I want something fun to
hack on.  Keep enough projects going, and there's always *something*
fun to hack on.  FS internals books, serial communications books,
C code, C++ code, artwork, etc..  I personally have 136 cataloged
projects, and more miscellaneous things than I can count.  I guess
I'm a dataflow machine?  8-).

Anyway, it keeps you sane for your day job.

So I definitely understand his digression, and the motivation for the
overall project.  8-).


					Regards,
					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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