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Date:      Wed, 3 Apr 2002 09:18:06 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, Jake Burkholder <jake@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf options src/sys/kern kern_ktr.c src
Message-ID:  <20020403091806.N26122@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20020402110917.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20020402122111.A20507@wantadilla.lemis.com> <XFMail.20020402110917.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On Tuesday,  2 April 2002 at 11:09:17 -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> On 02-Apr-2002 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Sunday, 31 March 2002 at 21:35:26 -0800, Jake Burkholder wrote:
>>> jake        2002/03/31 21:35:26 PST
>>>
>>>   Modified files:
>>>     sys/conf             options
>>>     sys/kern             kern_ktr.c
>>>     sys/sys              ktr.h
>>>     sys/sparc64/sparc64  genassym.c
>>>   Log:
>>>   ktr changes to improve performance and make writing a userland utility to
>>>   dump the trace buffer feasible.
>>>   - Remove KTR_EXTEND.  This changes the format of the trace entries when
>>>     activated, making writing a userland tool which is not tied to a
>>>     specific
>>>     kernel configuration difficult.
>>>
>>>   These changes will break gdb macros to decode the extended version
>>>   of the trace buffer which are floating around.  Users of these
>>>   macros should either use the show ktr command in ddb, or use the
>>>   userland utility which can be run on a core dump.
>>
>> I really think this is wrong.  It removes a very useful debugging
>> tool.  IIRC it was possible to disable KTR_EXTEND when necessary.
>> Even if not, it was still an option, and I think it should remain one.
>> There are plenty of places where you won't be able to use the userland
>> tool.
>
> In which case you can use 'show ktr' in DDB or a simple macro in
> gdb.  This doesn't preclude using a macro in gdb, it just makes the
> macro a bit more complicated.

If you can come up with a macro, I'll retire my objections.  The
problem I recall is that it has to do a sprintf with one of the
arguments as format.  I wasn't able to find a way.

I still think this is a Bad Idea.  It would be trivial for the system
call for tdump to return EINVAL if KTR_EXTEND is set.  There's little
enough debug assistance as it is; there's certainly no reason to
remove any of it which is useful.

Greg
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