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Date:      Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:10:37 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@plutotech.com>
Cc:        Studded <Studded@gorean.org>, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: filesystem safety and SCSI disk write caching 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.981015010606.5681B-100000@current1.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <199810142254.QAA04647@pluto.plutotech.com>

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The reason it comes up now is because the promise of soft updates to make
a 'safer and faster filesystem' is threatenned by it. 
Inthe pas the 'sync' filesystem was known to have problem with crashes.
and everybody just took that in their stride and didn't try find a reason 
for it. However with soft updates, there is a theoretical behaviour that
is easy to understand
and when a filesystem doesn't behae that way it become obvious..

the difference between 
45 filesystem eros and 47 is not that great.
The difference between 0 and 2 is much more noticeable, even though it's
still only 2 errors.

These problems have probably always occured. they were just not so
obvious.



On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:

> >	Which user community are you referring to?
> 
> All of FreeBSD.
> 
> >Has this write caching always been present, or was it introduced by CAM?
> 
> It has always been present.
> 
> --
> Justin
> 
> 
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