Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:22:46 +0000 (GMT) From: attila! <attila@hun.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>, Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu> Subject: Re: POSTFIX-- Wietse: tweak and go! --pkg & port: both duds Message-ID: <20001008212246.856EF1C2AB@hun.org> In-Reply-To: <v04220802b60683debd34@[10.0.1.2]> References: <20001008143111.D539@puck.firepipe.net>, <v04220804b60602307a6a@[10.0.1.2]>, <20001008070212.04A381C2AB@hun.org>
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on 8 Oct 2000 13:14:14 +0200, Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> responded: + At 7:02 AM +0000 2000/10/8, attila! wrote: + + > (a) pick a directory and 'tar -zxf snapshot-20000531.tar.gz' + > + > (b) 'cd snapshot-20000531' + + Three things: + + 1. You don't tell people where to get the postfix software. + + Start with <http://www.postfix.org/ftp-sites.html>, and + select a mirror site close to you. True, I did not; thanx for pointing that out! I already had the code, both from the 'ports' version which did not install correctly, and one I had pulled down. A selection (more at www.postfix.org). ftp://ftp.merit.edu/postfix/experimental/ ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/net/postfix/experimental/ ftp://ftp.utoronto.ca/mirror/packages/postfix/experimental/ ftp://ftp.samurai.com/pub/postfix/experimental/ ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/pub/unix/mail/postfix/experimental/ ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/net/mail/postfix/experimental/ ftp://ftp.mira.net/pub/unix/mail/postfix/experimental/ ftp://coda.nctu.edu.tw/network/mail/postfix/experimental/ + 2. You mention the use of snapshots, but this is not + recommended practice for sites new to postfix. Instead, + start with the most recent "release" version, e.g., + postfix-19991231-pl09. + + According to Wietse, the "snapshot" versions are: + + Work-in-progress code, subject to change, needs + testing before it can become an official release. + + However, these versions are what he runs on his own + systems, so it's probably better than the official + "production" release version of code from most anyone + else. I look at 'snapshots' philosophically; if I willingly track FreeBSD-5.0-current, I am obviously accustomed to the risks therein. As I mentioned, FreeBSD-current has 'snapshot-20000531' available in both the 'pkg' and 'ports' libraries. Most sites that I am aware of are using the snapshot-50000531 release, and as you point out, Wietse uses it on his site(s), which is more than enough of a recommendation from my perspective. 20000531 also represents a major 'cut-point'. 20001001 is the most current which Wietse is now running and stating that it is 'production quality'. Obviously, I will port 20001001 this afternoon! on Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:10:33 +0200, Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> responded: = on 2:31 PM -0500 2000/10/8, Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu> wrote: = = > Heh.. Wietse uses so-called ``experimental'' Postfix on his systems. = > And there are *LOTS* of people who think that whatever Wietse runs is = > good enough for them.. so this statement had better be hased on personal = > experience about the actual stability of ``experimental''. = = I quoted directly from the postfix web page, when I said that the = snapshot versions are: = = Work-in-progress code, subject to change, needs testing before = it can become an official release. = = I've been involved with postfix since long before it became known = by this name, and all during that process, the recommended version = that people are encouraged to run is the latest "official release" = version. = = Myself, I run the next-to-latest snapshot version on our = production systems, but you'd better be prepared to deal with any = problems that may occur if you want to do the same. Otherwise, you = shouldn't be running a snapshot version. not only good advice, but mandatory... however, I may be a little crazier as I will port the _latest_ version this afternoon! Nothing ventured, nothing gained. on 8 Oct 2000 13:14:14 +0200, Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> responded: (cont) + 3. [re: non-standard dbm libraries and MAKEAS] + + [snip] + Berkeley db 2.7.7 (built with "../dist/configure + --enable-compat185", because postfix uses only the db 1.85 + interfaces) + [snip] Why not consider the use of the mysql interface which provides dynamic aliasing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message
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