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Date:      Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:29:15 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>
Cc:        advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: You can take my source.  (fwd)
Message-ID:  <19990420172915.D40482@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990420024818.11384K-100000@cygnus.rush.net>; from Alfred Perlstein on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 02:51:00AM -0500
References:  <19990420164530.A40482@lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.3.96.990420024818.11384K-100000@cygnus.rush.net>

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On Tuesday, 20 April 1999 at  2:51:00 -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 20 April 1999 at  2:08:39 -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>>>>  *    without specific prior written permission.
>>>>>  *
>>>>>  * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND
>>>
>>> ..
>>>
>>> constitute the way that most of the BSD license works?
>>
>> This part does.  Unfortunately, the license you sent included not just
>> the Berkeley License, but also an AT&T license.  The bit I quoted at
>> the very top (USL license) is definitely *not* part of the Berkeley
>> license, and in fact closer to the licenses to be found in System V
>> sources.
>>
>>> I'll retract the statement if you disagree as i do value your judgement.
>>
>> I think you'll understand now.
>>
>>> perhaps you would like to go over the email with a red pen (sorta) and
>>> i'll submit a revised post?
>>
>> Hmm.  I don't have the whole message any more, but I think the rest is
>> OK.  Just to be sure, I think this is pretty much the basis:
>>
>>  * Copyright (c) 1990, 1993
>>  *	The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
>>  *
>>  * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
>>  * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
>>  * are met:
>>  * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
>>  *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>>  * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
>>  *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
>>  *    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>>  * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
>>  *    must display the following acknowledgement:
>>  *	This product includes software developed by the University of
>>  *	California, Berkeley and its contributors.
>>  * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors
>>  *    may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
>>  *    without specific prior written permission.
>>  *
>>  * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND
>>  * ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
>>  * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
>>  * ARE DISCLAIMED.  IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE
>>  * FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL
>>  * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS
>>  * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION)
>>  * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT
>>  * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY
>>  * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF
>>  * SUCH DAMAGE.
>
> So I should just tell them that I am retracting the part about the license
> and give them this instead?  Or do you know of a better example?

I think you should say that you accidentally sent them a version which
included a USL clause, and that that part is not part of the Berkeley
license.  But maybe we should wait a while and let somebody else come
to word.

Greg
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