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Date:      Fri, 8 Aug 1997 21:50:37 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Jamil J. Weatherbee" <jamil@counterintelligence.ml.org>
To:        Richard Foulk <richard@pegasus.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Netscape: Here's how to fix it.
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.970808214858.2433B-100000@counterintelligence.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <199708081326.DAA28863@pegasus.com>

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Tell netscape to give the freebsd community the source code and we will
tighten it up for the and make it lighting fast, efficient, and
bulletproof.

On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Richard Foulk wrote:

> } On Thu, Aug 07, 1997 at 10:06:37PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote:
> } > Jordan recently sent e-mail announcing that Netscape has a native
> } > implementation of Navigator.
> } > 
> } > Actually, it was of Communicator.  And, perhaps he should have mentioned
> } > it needs to run under 2.2 as it was linked dynamically and has VD
> } > (Version Discrepency) on the g++, c and stdc shared libraries.
> } 
> } Anyone else notice that it often just refuses to die?? I'd say about 60%
> } of the time for me, when I close it by selecting "Exit" from the menu,
> } or close the window using the window manager, Netscape disapears from
> } the screen, but a process list shows me it's still there, eating up
> } 20MB or RAM and burning away my CPU. 'kill -9' is your friend..
> 
> Dies just fine for me.
> 
> } Also, the java performance just seems HORRIBLE with the FReeBSD version..
> } Idon't know what they're doing, but for some reason the FreeBSD version
> } runs about 1000% slower than the Linux version of Communicator (and the
> } BSDI 3.0 series).
> 
> My Java performance seems okay.  Haven't tried the other versions yet
> to compare.
> 
> } Finally, Communicator locked up on me last night - actuallly it locked
> } up and took out my system with it.. complete freeze. X was still
> } "displaying", but the keyboard and mouse were dead. The machine wouldn't
> } even answer pings... complete freeze. Needless to say, since I've been
> } running FreeBSD (almost 2 years) this is the first time this has ever
> } happened to me. Lock up. Not even a crash. Nothing is worse, and horrible
> } images of win95 were filling my head. 
> } 
> } Solution: 
> } 	rm -rf /usr/local/netscape
> } 	mount /cdrom
> } 	pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/slynx-2.7.tgz
> } 
> } Communicator may have a pretty interface, but it's a behemouth,
> } resource eating, system crashing, poor performing monster. Surely they
> } can do better...
> 
> Communicator is a fairly important product.  That Netscape is now apparently
> supporting FreeBSD is a *very* important development!  It raises the status
> of FreeBSD considerably.
> 
> It works reasonably well considering that it's in beta right now.
> 
> Please lighten up.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 




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