Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:24:09 -0500 From: "Troy Settle" <st@i-plus.net> To: "Matt Schroebel" <matt@epooch.com> Cc: <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Newbie stuff (WAS: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php) Message-ID: <NCBBICPMGLFJFKGNMLHCEEAGCAAA.st@i-plus.net> In-Reply-To: <001801bf3157$3e20b570$059ee8d0@epooch.com>
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It's been quite some time since I've used the port in question. The last time I did, it worked as expected. As distributions change, ports break. The maintainer of the port wasn't paid, and isn't paid. If the port is broken, then you need to do exactly what you did: install stuff manually. Alternatively, you could fix the port :) As for my mail being anti-newbie, please re-read it. It's not the question that bothered me, is the fact that I gave the same answer 3 times in one thread. All that the more experienced users on these lists ask, is that you, the newbie, take the time to read the availiable documentation. The first time I installed the FP server extensions, I followed the directions located at www.rtr.com, and it worked like a charm. All I had to do, was *READ* the documentation and do what it said (with a few minor adjustments since I was installing on FreeBSD as opposed to BSDI). Don't be hesitant to ask your questions. Ask us why the sky is blue. Someone will provide you an answer, but may chastise you if it's obvious that you did not bother to utilize availiable resources to try to find the answer yourself. Also, I'd like to state for the record that I never used the mailing lists until I had already been using FreeBSD for about 6 months or so. When I finally did subscribe, I saw nothing but questions that were easily answered by man pages, web pages, or README files. It's really frustrating for us more experienced users to have to explain these basic concepts to new people. You're subscribed to the ISP mailing list. I assume you own and/or work at an ISP. How many times have you wanted to strangle a customer for calling you up and asking some stupid question that could have been answered by hitting F1 and bringing up the help file? Nobody expects anyone on these lists to know everything, and nobody will get bitchy for a newbie asking a question after he/she has read the related documentation. I'll close now, Troy ** -----Original Message----- ** From: Matt Schroebel [mailto:matt@epooch.com] ** Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 6:56 PM ** To: Troy Settle; Vincent Poy ** Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Freebsd questions ** Subject: Re: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php ** ** ** ----- Original Message ----- ** From: "Troy Settle" <st@i-plus.net> ** To: "Vincent Poy" <vince@venus.GAIANET.NET> ** Cc: <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG> ** Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 6:07 AM ** Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php ** ** ** > ** > Just how dense are you? Do you not understand what it means ** when someone ** is ** > refering to FP2K, and says that "info for it can be found at ** www.rtr.com" ** ? ** > ** > This is the THIRD time I've posted this URL. Please go there ** and educate ** > yourself before asking any more questions on this list. Installing ** > Apache+php+ssl+frontpage+this+that+the_other, is really freakin simple. ** You ** > read the directions for each item you wish to toss in, and apply those ** > instructions at the appropriate time: ** > ** ** I don't think computer software is simple at all, especially ** when it doesn't ** work. I just had a heck of a time installing apache + mysql + php3 with ** FBSD 3.2. The port wanted gd, but the version of gd fetched didn't match ** what the port expected, the checksum validation failed, and the patches ** wouldn't apply. The same was true with PHP3. Since I'm a ** newbie to UNIX, I ** gave up on the ports collection, went to the respective web sites, and ** followed each packages INSTALL instructions. ** ** I'm an experienced computer professional. There was recently ** some banter of ** noticing less newbie questions. It's answers like this that keep me from ** even asking questions. ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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