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Date:      Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:19:18 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        NOC-IPAD <sysadmin@greeves.mfn.org>, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, "'rafie@innocent.com'" <rafie@innocent.com>
Subject:   Re: Availability & Cost
Message-ID:  <19980709151918.Q15625@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <01BDAAF6.C23B60F0@noc.mfn.org>; from NOC-IPAD on Thu, Jul 09, 1998 at 05:02:22AM -0500
References:  <01BDAAF6.C23B60F0@noc.mfn.org>

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On Thursday,  9 July 1998 at  5:02:22 -0500, NOC-IPAD wrote:
> On  	Wednesday, July 08, 1998 10:51 PM, Rafie wrote:
>>
>> Hi,  I am interested in trying FreeBSD.  The CD from Walnut Creek is too
>> expensive and I have been downloading it at home now for over a week.
>> It seems like I will never get a chance to install it.  Is there  less
>> expensive way to get the CD?
>
> If you have been downloading for a week, then either:
>
> (a) you are using a 1200 baud modem (not likely),  OR
> (b) you are downloading from {ftp,www}.freebsd.org (very likely).
>
> Use a mirror site!  Freebsd's main server is
> (/FLAMESUIT ON)
> very overloaded,
> (/FLAMESUIT OFF)
> and on a connection which dies going through MCI's teeny-tiny
> little pipe!

It's a good thing you have your flame suit on.  This advice is
completely off the point.  What evidence do you have of your claims?
I've always had excellent response times from both ftp.FreeBSD.org
(really wcarchive.cdrom.com, the world's largest ftp server), and
www.FreeBSD.org (really freefall.FreeBSD.org).  I've just tried again,
and again I had excellent response times.

On freefall, I see:

> last pid:  6943;  load averages:  0.47,  0.59,  0.69                                                           22:45:50
> 82 processes:  1 running, 80 sleeping, 1 stopped
> CPU states:  5.8% user,  0.0% nice,  9.3% system,  2.7% interrupt, 82.1% idle
> Mem: 71M Active, 9452K Inact, 20M Wired, 16M Cache, 8343K Buf, 7984K Free
> Swap: 320M Total, 13M Used, 307M Free, 4% Inuse
> 
>   PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
>  6039 cvsup    -5   0  1860K  1568K getblk   0:17  2.71%  2.71% cvsupd
>  6566 cvsup    -5   0  1860K  1572K getblk   0:05  2.48%  2.48% cvsupd

In other words, it's 85% idle.

I consider that it's much more likely that your problems are network
path related.  Since I have no trouble getting there from Australia,
I'd guess that it's a local problem for you.

> I always have great luck with ftp2.freebsd.org and ftp3.freebsd.org!

And so you should.

> Hoping to see you loading in a couple of HOURS!!!

I'd guess that Rafie's problems lie elsewhere.

Greg
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