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Date:      Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:29:07 +0400
From:      Vladimir Grebenschikov <vova@fbsd.ru>
To:        Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>
Cc:        freebsd gnome <freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: end-user whines about 2.10
Message-ID:  <1112246947.1106.2.camel@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20050330195501.671E55D07@ptavv.es.net>
References:  <20050330195501.671E55D07@ptavv.es.net>

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=F7 =D3=D2, 30/03/2005 =D7 11:55 -0800, Kevin Oberman =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4:
> > From: "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net>
> > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:20:59 -0600
> > Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org
> >=20
> > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:14:11 -0800, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> >=20
> > >>>   o i can't seem to find a biff for the panel.  inbox monitor
> > >>>     seems to have disappeared or something, and addtopanel offers
> > >>>     nothing obvious to replace it.
> > >> This is documented in the GNOME 2.10 release notes.  I'm now using
> > >> mail/mail-notification as a replacement, but it is not as real-time =
as
> > >> the applet used to be.
> > >
> > > i can start and configure it, but nothing appears in the
> > > panel.  and with 500 msgs a day, popups i just don't need.
> > >
> > >>>   o the wireless applet seems to have changed to some sort of
> > >>>     useless flashing pixmap of a screen.  where did the signal
> > >>>     strength meter, an ever so useful device, go?
> > >> It's a purple icon next to the flashing monitors.
> > >
> > > ack.  'cept the signal strength is not really readable, see
> > > <http://rip.psg.com/~randy/signal.jpg>; where i can not see how
> > > it tells me the strength, according to whoppens when i click
> > > it, is 66%.
> > >
> > > and how to get rid of those silly monitors?  also, the
> > > preferences/configure option seems not to work, "The interface
> > > does not exist," when indeed ath0 does and shows on those
> > > lovely flashing monitors.
> > >
> > >>>   o i still have not figured out how to get my own separate
> > >>>     custom application menu back.  see just to the right of the
> > >>>     main menu foot in
> > >>>        <http://rip.psg.com/~randy/panel.jpg>;
> > >>>     for my 2.8 panel section.  sorry, i could not figure out how
> > >>>     to take a screenshot while the hierarchic menu folder was
> > >>>     open.
> > >> I just create custom drawers, and that works fine in GNOME 2.10.
> > >
> > > maybe if you don't have a complex hierarchy of them and need to
> > > label each drawer so you know what you're doing.  and they're
> > > screen sticky!
> > >
> > >>> and totem now smacks me when i try to play a vcd, whining
> > >>> "OSS device "/dev/dsp" is already in use by another program."
> > >>> when nothing is using sound that i can see.
> > >>>     # lsof> grep -i dsp
> > >>>     # lsof /dev/dsp
> > >> Check your gstreamer audio settings.
> > >
> > > uh, against what?  and what should they be?  current settings
> > > are in <http://rip.psg.com/~randy/gstreamer.jpg>.
> > >
> > > whine whine whine :-)
> >=20
> > Almost all of your 'whine' should be take up to GNOME developers.
>=20
> Agreed. many of the changes made in 2.10 are IMHO poor choices. I have
> lost functionality and seen continued movement to forcing all Gnome
> users to do things the same way.=20
>=20
> For Randy, I'd suggest that he install gkrellm. It does eat up more
> screen space, but provides much more useful displays.=20

I am using it for long time. It is really nice.

> The wireless plug-in shows signal strength.=20

Unfortunately that plugin does not handles exotic wiles interfaces out
of the box (like ndis0 or iwi0).

> Another provides xmms control and the
> basic tool does biff. What's more it can monitor disk and file system
> use, memory, swap, battery, and most everything else. It can also be
> started as a daemon and run remotely.
>=20
> The only Gnome monitoring applet I use is the CPU Frequency Scaling
> Monitor. (I am working on powerd, so it's essential.)
--=20
Vladimir B. Grebenchikov
vova@fbsd.ru



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