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Date:      Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:49:06 +0300
From:      "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" <almarrie@gmail.com>
To:        "Martin Turgeon" <turgeon.martin@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM
Message-ID:  <499c70c0706181449o7abf6b24uc657c2b312add822@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/19/07, Martin Turgeon <turgeon.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2007/6/18, Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>:
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:03:44PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote:
> > >  I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both with 4G of
> > RAM. I
> > >  installed FreeBSD 6.2 Release i386 on both of them. Unfortunately, only
> > 3,5G
> > >  is recognized on the 860 and 3,3G on the 1950.
> > >  dmesg on 860:
> > >  real memory  = 3757834240 (3583 MB)
> > >  avail memory = 3678318592 (3507 MB)
> > >
> > >  I am facing a difficult decision. Should I use i386 with PAE enabled in
> > the
> > >  kernel (I read a lot of warnings using it) or should I go with AMD64?
> > Which
> > >  branch should I follow?
> >
> > Based on what I've read from some of the porters and miscellaneous
> > others, generally-speaking there's too many issues with amd64 (in the
> > sense of 32-bit vs. 64-bit compatibility -- not the fault of the kernel
> > or otherwise) to consider it worth switching to.
> >
> > I personally don't run 64-bit OSes because most developers still use
> > 32-bit machines and don't have a way to develop/test in 64-bit
> > environments.
> >
> > That said, I'd recommend you stick with i386 + PAE, simply for
> > guaranteed application compatibility.
>
>
> My setup is fairly standard (as I described), should I expect problem with
> 64 bit version of these programs?
>
>
> You'll lose the amount of RAM you're seeing due to PAE addressing for
> > PCI address space.  I can dig you up a usage map (broken down by how
> > much is taken up by each portion; PCI, ACPI, etc.) if you want one.
> > It's for SuperMicro systems, but the general idea applies to most
> > everything.
>
>
> I'm not sure to understand what you mean by that. Are you saying that PAE
> will eat the 500M that should be available?
>
> --
> > | Jeremy Chadwick                                    jdc at parodius.com |
> > | Parodius Networking                           http://www.parodius.com/ |
> > | UNIX Systems Administrator                      Mountain View, CA, USA |
> > | Making life hard for others since 1977.                  PGP: 4BD6C0CB |

If I were you, I would go for AMD64.


-- 
Regards,

-Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
Arab Portal
http://www.WeArab.Net/



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