Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 00:32:17 +0000 From: "Seamus Roche" <seamusjr@hotmail.com> To: gar@askgar.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: What Version (GNOME - gnomeprint034, bonobo018) Message-ID: <F22ZwwPcMFlF8HGmCvo000024ca@hotmail.com>
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Hi Gary, I am new to FreeBSD too. I just upgraded from 4.3 STABLE to 4.5 STABLE this past week and yesterday successfully installed GNOME and Enlightenment. However I used Annelise Anderson's FreeBSD An Open Source Operating System For Your Personal Computer, which has very good directions about which packages to add for GNOME to work. Also, since I am stuck with only a dial up at the moment, I used the FreeBSD 4.5 CD set from bsdmall. This has one CD with the Installation another for the fixit and two more with additional packages. It was on these discs that I found the packages for configuring the GNOME. This is not the way for everyone I understand and in the future I plan to config packages and ports from the internet, but for like $60 both the book and the CDs I'm sure have saved me some hours. You might want to check them out. Next I get to configure fbsd to play nice with the new external modem. Then on to some Python development... Regards, _Seamus >From: Gary Warner <gar@askgar.com> >To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org >Subject: What Version (GNOME - gnomeprint034, bonobo018) >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:23:35 -0600 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [216.136.204.119] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBE4645C100CB4004388ED888CC775E2C0; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:27:00 -0800 >Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18])by >mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPid 8D3C4557D5; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 >07:26:44 -0800 (PST)(envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) >Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538)id C316037B41A; Wed, >27 Feb 2002 07:26:42 -0800 (PST) >Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])by hub.freebsd.org >(Postfix) with SMTPid 244CB2E808A; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:26:42 -0800 (PST) >Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:26:41 >-0800 >Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net >[207.69.200.57])by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F4837B400for ><freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:26:34 -0800 (PST) >Received: from user-2injqau.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.233.94] >helo=askgar.com)by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1)id >16g5yS-0004SZ-00for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:26:33 >-0500 >From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:27:35 -0800 >Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org >Message-ID: <3C7CF9F7.52B86A9D@askgar.com> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >List-ID: <freebsd-newbies.FreeBSD.ORG> >List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/>; (Web Archive) >List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) >List-Subscribe: ><mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-newbies> >List-Unsubscribe: ><mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-newbies> >X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Precedence: bulk > >I'm not new to Unix, but I'm definitely new to FreeBSD. > >I have spent somewhere upwards of 20 hours "messing with" a new FreeBSD >box. I used my Windows box to make the 2 disk boot start, and my cable >modem has done an admirable job of sucking down gigs and gigs of aborted >attempts at packages and ports. > >I got through configuring my XFree86, which took some time because I >didn't know I needed the Mach64 version of the server, but that's done. >The lesson I learned in that portion of the FreeBSD adventure was "The >Handbook is Your Friend. Read the Handbook". > >Then I went to try to go GNOME, and its a mess. > >I have been working with 4.5-RELEASE as my version, and my basic >problems are that anything I try to do working with GNOME has >dependencies on packages that don't exist anymore in the 4.5 trees. >"bonobo" and "gnome-print" are the two biggest ones that come to mind. > >For instance, if you head over to: >http://www.freebsd.org/ports/gnome.html > >you will see that many things on the page require >"gnome-print-0.34" >"bonobo-1.0.18" > >if you flip over to: >http://www.freebsd.org/ports/print.html#gnomeprint-0.34 > >you can click on "sources" to find out where to get gnomeprint, and >you'll see that all the sources list "gnome-print-0.35.tar.gz" > >In the various ftp#.freebsd.org sites, you will find that there are >sym-links to "gnome-print-0.34.tgz", but guess what? They are sym-links >to dead air! No such file! > >(Examples: >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.5-release/gnome/gnomeprint-0.34.tgz > >(well....as I check my "Examples" I see that bonobo-1.0.18.tgz is >available now. hmmmph)) > > >My FreeBSD friends encouraged me not to do packages, but to do ports, so >I retrieved the entire ports.tgz (taking everything, lest I omit >something critical), and following their instructions do my "make && >make install" at various places in the gnome section of the ports tree. > >They all fail. They are all looking for gnome-print 0.34 and >bonobo1.0.18, which as far as I can tell, DO NOT EXIST. > >Finally my FreeBSD friend came to the house. He said, "OH! Here's your >problem! You are trying to run 4.5! You should only run even numbered >releases. The odd ones are buggy!" > >When I emailed the FreeBSD GNOME people, I got the reply: > > There was a problem with posting certain packages to the FTP sites. > This is currently being investigated. However, if you've found >updated > packages, FTP them down manually, then pkg_add them from disk > >------------- >Well, I haven't found PACKAGES -- I've found '.tar.gz' files, which >can't be pkg_add'ed. > >So, what does this newbie do? Should I listen to my friends advice and >go back to 4.4?? > >Advice welcome, > >_-_ >gar the newbie > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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