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Date:      Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:46:16 -0000
From:      "Graham Bentley" <admin@cpcnw.co.uk>
To:        "Polytropon" <freebsd@edvax.de>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, admin@cpcnw.co.uk
Subject:   Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
Message-ID:  <a9bdd460c08aefdfff88721137f44e87.squirrel@webmail.plus.net>
In-Reply-To: <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de>
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> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -0000, "Graham Bentley" <admin@cpcnw.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer.
>>
>> I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!!
>
> I may politely add that exactly this is the reason I removed
> a working "Flash" support from my system. I rather like to
> see empty "plug-in content" boxes instead of being annoyed by
> "Flash" stuff that is mainly used for advertising.
>
> Have you noticed that "Flash" has taken the place of animated
> GIFs, adding sound and providing nothing that couldn't be
> done using existing standards? I'm sure you have.
>
> A growing part of today's "web designers" seem to have
> accepted "Flash" as a replacement for valid HTML, and
> even for invalid HTML.
>
> Have you ever heared of a modern web browser that forces
> you to install, let's say, a plugin for viewing JPG images,
> and this plugin is only available for an arbitrary chosen
> subset of operating systems, and loaded with patents and
> other cripple-stuff? And it forces you to have an up-to-date
> computer, of course, with an expensive OS (free OSes are
> out of scope already). And all the clever "web designers"
> now replace their working sites with JPG - even the text
> is given as a JPG image. And it is assumed that you have
> the plugin installed. And of course, there's a new version
> of the plugin every year. All this just to view a JPG
> image. Could you imagine such a stupid situation? It's
> so idiotic, but it's the reality.
>
> That's the situation with "Flash". And as I have experienced
> it, I can honestly say that I'm fine without "Flash". I may
> review my opinion, if given some reason to do so.
>
> But as it has already been mentioned, that's a very individual
> decision, based upon likes and dislikes.
>
> --
> Polytropon
> Magdeburg, Germany
> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
>

Points very well made. In fact shouldn't we be campaigning against
such closed source perversion of our Open Standards Internet, not
complaining that one company doesn't make a media content viewer
for us?

This is exactly why Stallman harks on about freedoms etc it almost
feels pathetic; "Please Mr Adobe, we poor FreeBSD users don't have
a flash viewer, please make one for us too" bleat bleat

The only content I 'miss' is occasional utube vids ;

No probs. Download as .flv and play with mplayer.





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