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Date:      Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:15:58 -0700
From:      Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
To:        Robert Clark <res03db2@gte.net>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
Subject:   Re: time_t not to change size on x86
Message-ID:  <15326.53822.743881.437495@caddis.yogotech.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011030081253.D36195@darkstar.gte.net>
References:  <3BDE6ED3.64DC027E@mindspring.com> <XFMail.011030073149.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20011030081253.D36195@darkstar.gte.net>

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> I'm curious, have any of you tried python? What are your opinions?

I haven't, sorry.  However, I've heard very good things about it.

> I could not get past the fact that if I wrote a program in Java,
> I couldn't say so anywhere.

Huh?  You can certainly say that it's a Java program legally.  As a
matter of fact, you may *have* to say it's a Java program, to warn the
consumer why it's so slow. :) :)



Nate

> > On 30-Oct-01 Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > John Baldwin wrote:
> > >> My personal peeve with C++ is that is a growth on teh side of C (although at
> > >> this point it's larger than C..)  I prefer the way Java lays out code
> > >> (functions defined within the class, etc.).  Unfortunately, the
> > >> implemenetations of Java running around aren't the speediest unless you are
> > >> running !FreeBSD. :-/  Granted, speed isn't needed for all things.
> > > 
> > > Java has several problems:
> > 
> > I still prefer it to C++'s problems. :)
> > 
> > > 1)    It can't do multiple inheritance
> > 
> > Interfaces are like multiple inheritance of pure abstract classes and are
> > simpler to get right.
> >  
> > > 2)    You can instance classes without constructing them (the
> > >       JavaMail API has a number of examples of this)
> > 
> > So?
> > 
> > > 3)    Strong typing is for weak minds
> > 
> > Or lazy ones. :)  I wouldn't use Java for OS hacking, but for applications,
> > strong typing is more useful.
> > 
> > > -- Terry
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/
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