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Date:      Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:30:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: kern/41552: TCP timers' sysctl's overflow
Message-ID:  <200208161930.g7GJU3fw055807@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR kern/41552; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
To: serkoon@thedarkside.nl
Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: kern/41552: TCP timers' sysctl's overflow
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:21:58 -0700 (PDT)

 In article <200208152100.g7FL04jL011288@freefall.freebsd.org>,
 serkoon  <serkoon@thedarkside.nl> wrote:
 >   >Note, I don't think the fix referenced in this PR should be merged
 >   >into the security branches anyway, since it is not security related.
 >  
 >  Imo a bug which makes a host vulnerable to a DoS-attack by using up
 >  all available sockets/filedescriptors -is- a security-bug. I guess you'll
 >  agree on that.
 
 Yes, but this one only happens when you use a rather unusual kernel
 configuration.  You could set NMBCLUSTERS to 5, and that would open up
 a DoS attack too.  But I don't think FreeBSD's urgent-security-fixes
 branch should address either of those potential problems.
 
 >  Then, why don't you feel that way in this particular ocassion? Is it that
 >  there just aren't many people around with HZ set at 1000 or up, so this
 >  bug, although it may be a security-bug, isn't that important because
 >  there are many higher prioritized things to fix?
 
 It's not a matter of priorities.  It's just that the purpose of the
 security branches is to achieve maximum stability by including only
 the most essential security-related fixes.  The more stuff you put
 into those branches, the less stable they will become.  We have seen
 that in real life in the -stable branches, and in fact that is the
 reason the security branches were created in the first place.
 
 In this case I believe you should either maintain the patch locally
 until 4.7 comes out (October 1), or else follow the -stable branch
 rather than the security branch.
 
 John

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