Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:27:39 +0100 (BST) From: "Patrick Welche" <prlw1@newn.cam.ac.uk> To: dillon@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon) Cc: thorpej@nas.nasa.gov, jobaldwi@vt.edu, tech-userlevel@netbsd.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Swap overcommit (was Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)) Message-ID: <E11569T-0003dF-00@quartz.newn.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <199907142218.PAA96575@apollo.backplane.com> from "Matthew Dillon" at Jul 14, 99 03:18:50 pm
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Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:18:58 -0400 (EDT) > : John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> wrote: > : > : > What does that have to do with overcommit? I student administrate a undergrad > : > CS lab at a university, and when student's programs misbehaved, they generate a > : > fault and are killed. The only machines that reboot on us without be > : > explicitly told to are the NT ones, and yes we run FreeBSD. > : > :What does it have to do with overcommit? Everthing in the world! > : > :If you have a lot of users, all of which have buggy programs which eat > :a lot of memory, per-user swap quotas don't necessarily save your butt. > > If every single one of your users is trying to crash your machine daily, > maybe you should consider throwing them off the system and finding users > that are less hostile. > > This conversation is getting silly. Do you actually believe that > an operating system can magically protect itself 100% from armloads of > hostile users? > > Give me a break. You people are crazy. If you have something worthwhile > to say i'll listen, but these "the sky is falling!" arguments are idiotic. > > -Matt > students != hostile users Making mistakes is part of learning. Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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