Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 23:04:38 +0000 From: John <jwd@FreeBSD.org> To: Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rtools were deemed almost unused 15 years ago... Message-ID: <20171003230438.GA53445@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <CAGSa5y2igMZF_=crLHcYmo3M%2BUdK0CH1LRxSviUfvJLvwMM1FQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAGSa5y3kVajpSSJUT9Vt0-dTwtaXMwNWvv_ELH14z68osM0UYA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGSa5y1=1zN0ywKQ--HTi%2BDY18M5o%2BGR0fv6CyaaF9WX-z9BZg@mail.gmail.com> <CAGSa5y02X=Ni5HeGD=LiV8L-=Denf6ybNus7C0q3nJ9t4sVwWw@mail.gmail.com> <CAGSa5y2igMZF_=crLHcYmo3M%2BUdK0CH1LRxSviUfvJLvwMM1FQ@mail.gmail.com>
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--KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you picked up the recent changes to the code in your port? ----- Jeremie Le Hen's Original Message ----- > I've slacked a bit but here we are: > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12573 >=20 > On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> wrot= e: > >> So the first step was to create a port with FreeBSD rcmds, here we > >> are! But I need some eyes to vet it: > >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D11345 > > > > The port has been submitted and RCMDS are disabled by default from the > > base system. > > > > See you in a month for the removal! > > > > -- Jeremie > > > >> > >> Thanks. > >> -- Jeremie > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> wro= te: > >>> Hey folks, > >>> > >>> I remember when I was still barely out of my teenagehood, people were > >>> mostly using ssh/scp while rtools (rsh, rlogin, ... for the > >>> youngsters) were left in place as a courtesy for legacy production > >>> systems still relying it on them. > >>> > >>> Fast forward to 2017 (so yes, 15 years later), stack-clash [1] sorely > >>> reminds us that suid binaries are an attack surface. I don't even need > >>> to mention that it's a healthy engineering practice to remove unused > >>> code, both from a maintenance and security perspective. > >>> > >>> Therefore, I hereby propose to remove rtools from the base system. I > >>> acknowledge this will likely cause troubles for a handful of people > >>> who are still relying on it for good or bad reasons. But the flipside > >>> is that the attack surface of millions of FreeBSD installed out there > >>> will be reduced. > >>> > >>> The proposed roadmap is: > >>> - disable from the build on head and let it soak for one month > >>> - remove rtools from the base. > >>> > >>> What do you guys think? Any preferred color for the bikeshed? :) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> [1] https://www.qualys.com/2017/06/19/stack-clash/stack-clash.txt > >>> -- > >>> Jeremie Le Hen > >>> jlh@FreeBSD.org > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jeremie Le Hen > >> jlh@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeremie Le Hen > > jlh@FreeBSD.org >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jeremie Le Hen > jlh@FreeBSD.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJZ1BeFXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQwNDBGOTgxNzM0NzQ3OEFBNDYyODNGQzVC NjI0OTlBMTQyNEY3RjgxAAoJELYkmaFCT3+BFXoH/0mQ4gFxxpDyzCDogQtbdlLm XehjQ8YtXHYbmSCx00pRJBonC5gkNJUkbN8b4sm8e5tcDg6BrCEMaBthOzCjxdVG NTF1GZRvP/6nhFysf472rGrtaAVTeh7yxVcxjriAt/E3mBt/wOLPI7j1T6+yiKhN FudIpVUVgwlpSL2GIgYZmIZTMm8Xxf7dbq2IqdYW8v8IQFRAuFAuNpGxGCvhUlZQ RMpGxgpJ9AbTjmMr/SAZSQwVaxuYPbcjRnXepU1oFfRSQ/4W2SABDN/RQdGCC+Od IyzysJoxeYxdYVppV2/8IVJxBY3aWo4BK9APvPqMb7fnzQIR3jKo1R1lsXOm15Q= =yCZH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy--
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