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Date:      Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:15:45 +0100
From:      Bengt Ahlgren <bengta@sics.se>
To:        "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
Cc:        freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>
Subject:   Re: cx_lowest and CPU usage
Message-ID:  <uh7r6fe1sxq.fsf@P142.sics.se>
In-Reply-To: <20080214200536.49E214500F@ptavv.es.net> (Kevin Oberman's message of "Thu\, 14 Feb 2008 12\:05\:36 -0800")
References:  <20080214200536.49E214500F@ptavv.es.net>

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"Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> writes:

>> From: Bengt Ahlgren <bengta@sics.se>
>> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:14:33 +0100
>> Sender: owner-freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org
>> 
>> Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> writes:

[...]

>> > C2 has even stranger effects.
>> > On almost idle system, with cx_lowest=C1, top reports about 0-2% user,
>> > 0% nice, 0-2% system, 1-2% interrupt, 94-98% idle.
>> > After changing cx_lowest to C2, I see the following: 0-2% user, 0% nice,
>> > 0-2% system, 94-98% interrupt, 1-2% idle.
>> 
>> I see a similar effect on my TP with Pentium-M when it is in C3 or C4,
>> but it's more in the order of 4% when in C3 and some 10-15% in C4.  I
>> think that the additional time accounted to interrupts is due to the
>> time it takes to wake the CPU up from the particular Cx-state.  My C3
>> takes 85 (us?? or cycles???):

(Just for the record: it's more like 6-9% using C4, not 10-15%.)

>> [root@P142 ~]# sysctl dev.cpu.0.cx_supported
>> dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/1 C3/85
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> > Just in case, here's a little bit of sysctl output:
>> > dev.cpu.0.freq: 448
>> > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 448/-1 224/-1
>> > dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 C2/90
>> > dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C2
>> > dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 1.71% 98.28%
>> 
>> With this slow CPU, a wakeup time of 90 from C2 could very well result
>> in this much interupt time.  It just barely manages to wake up,
>> execute the clock interrupt and go to sleep again before the next
>> clock interrupt.  What if you reduce HZ?
>
> Possible dumb question. Do you (either of you) have USB drivers in your
> kernel or loaded?
>
> This is just a shot in the dark, but I have seen weird things when I
> have USB drivers loaded and usually don't load them on my laptop
> until/unless I need them. At very least, USB kills the battery on my
> T43 a LOT faster.

Nope, no USB driver, since it prevents C3 or higher to be used.  I
also load it only when I need it.

I have not tried it, but reducing hz to 100 should save even more
battery when using C3/C4, since the system wakes up less often.

Bengt



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