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Date:      Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:38:58 +0100
From:      Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
To:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>, freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Andrew Snow <andrew@modulus.org>
Subject:   Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...
Message-ID:  <48CF6292.7050909@infracaninophile.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20080916065657.GB12295@soaustin.net>
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Mark Linimon wrote:
| On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 04:30:26PM +1000, Andrew Snow wrote:
|> I think FreeBSD is getting in a difficult position now because there's 
|> so much cool new stuff being shoe-horned in, but without the necessary 
|> volume of contributors to back it up with testing and bug fixes.
| 
| We're interested in suggestions about how to get more people involved
| with testing and bug fixes.
| 
| There's certainly no lack of demand for the features -- all the way from
| running on inexpensive wireless routers all the way up to 'enterprise-
| grade' distributed storage solutions.  (These are real examples from
| various mailing lists.)
| 
| So, in your opinion, what's the way to reconcile all these demands
| (features + stability + long-term support of release branches) with
| a group that is 95%-plus volunteer effort?

I think that the FreeBSD project as presently constituted does pretty well
on the 'features + stability' side of things -- although it seems the glut
of new features coming in at the moment probably is enough for the time being
and we need a period of consolidation to restore the balance on the stability
side of things.

On 'long term support of release branches' -- a volunteer project is always
going to struggle to provide this without some form of income to support the
necessary hardware and personnel resources needed.  Or in other words, if
FreeBSD users want the same sort of support structure as they can get from a
commercial vendor, it's going to take a commercial vendor to supply it.

FreeBSD Corporation anyone?

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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