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Date:      Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:40:53 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Data types (was: Re: FAQ FreeBSD-Sparc [frequent posting])
Message-ID:  <19971217114053.51947@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199712162326.AAA13925@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from Oliver Fromme on Wed, Dec 17, 1997 at 12:26:34AM %2B0100
References:  <199712162326.AAA13925@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>

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On Wed, Dec 17, 1997 at 12:26:34AM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> In list.freebsd-sparc perhaps@yes.no wrote:
>>> Assumptions about the size of int will need fixed.
>>
>> OK, what assumptions are correct on UltraSPARC?  (Here comes a set of
>> possible assumptions; could you try to say which are wrong, and I'll
>> try to fix the places where some of them occur?)
>> [...]
>
> On DEC Alpha (at least with DEC's cc), the following is true:
>   - sizeof(short) == 2
>   - sizeof(int)   == 4
>   - sizeof(long)  == 8
>   - sizeof(void*) == 8
> Which is a good choice, IMHO.  I don't think it is a problem to
> have sizeof(int) != sizeof(void*), at least I haven't had any
> problems with that on Alphas.  Software which assumes that ints
> and pointers are of equal size is broken anyway.
>
> On the other hand, I don't know how efficient it is to access
> 32 bit units on the UltraSparc, compared to 64 bit units.
> If 32 bit accesses involve a penalty (especially if they are
> not 64-bit-aligned), it might be worth to use sizeof(int) =
> sizeof(long) = 8.

Agreed on both points.  But doesn't it make more sense to see how
Solaris 2/SunOS 5 defines them?

> Is there a special version of gcc for UltraSparc?  If so, we
> will have to use its idea of the data type sizes, I'm afraid,
> so there's no choice.

Sure there is.  You can always modify it.  But without an excellent
reason, I don't think it's a good idea to change things from the way
other operating systems on the same platform do it.

Greg




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