Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:19:47 +0300 From: Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: tcltk@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r290637 - head/lib/libc/locale Message-ID: <56421923.7080601@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20151110161204.GM10134@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <201511100811.tAA8BR0R034338@repo.freebsd.org> <5641E7B4.2070508@freebsd.org> <20151110130430.GK10134@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <5641EF26.8060600@freebsd.org> <20151110133615.GL10134@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <5642163E.1050405@freebsd.org> <20151110161204.GM10134@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --PuKg2eHPNNvjl8UeQ6v8WHta5mjDtdWw2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10.11.2015 19:12, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 07:07:26PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> On 10.11.2015 16:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 04:20:38PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>>> On 10.11.2015 16:04, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 03:48:52PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>>>>> On 10.11.2015 11:11, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>>>>> Author: bapt >>>>>>> Date: Tue Nov 10 08:11:27 2015 >>>>>>> New Revision: 290637 >>>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/290637 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Log: >>>>>>> return "US-ASCII" instead of "POSIX" for "C" and "POSIX" locale= s >>>>>>> as it used to be in previous version of the locales. Returning >>>>>>> "POSIX" has too many fallouts. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can return "ANSI_X3.4-1968" (another name of "US-ASCII") to be= >>>>>> different with real US-ASCII. It is what glibc returns for C/POSIX= >>>>>> locale and most ports expected, being linux-oriented. >>>>>> >>>>> I thought about it, but in the end it is probably safer for now tha= t nl_langinfo >>>>> return US-ASCII as it did in the past, to reduce breakage with Free= BSD only code >>>>> that maybe be existing ou there. >>>> >>>> All FreeBSD code I know never check locale this way. IMHO probabilit= y of >>>> potential danger to meet some linux-oriented port with this check is= >>>> much much higher than to meet similar FreeBSD only code in the wild.= In >>>> any case, changing collate order from A-Za-z to aA-zZ we do just now= >>>> have much higher probability to break unknown FreeBSD only code, so = one >>>> breaking change can go with other one together. >>>> >>> That is true, except that the new collation thing is invalidated as s= oon as you >>> set LC_COLLATE=3DC which bring your back to A-Za-z. So you have a wor= karound while >>> changing the return value of nl_langinfo() is not workaroundable. >> >> Well, forget my improper comparison with collate and see this bug in >> action right now, in our port tcl8.6.4/unix/tclUnixInit.c: >> >> See localeTable and comment above it, there is internal "ansi_x3.4-196= 8" >> (i.e. POSIX locale), internal "ascii" and even no alias for our >> "us-ascii" at all. >> >> It gets info through nl_langinfo(CODESET), lowercased. I.e. not using >> "ANSI_X3.4-1968" breaks all tcl ports right now, this is more essentia= l >> than hypothetical private FreeBSD only code no one see. >=20 > That one is a valid point, that also means that is is broken right now = on > FreeBSD 10 and below? Yes. It can't map our C locale to the some of internal ones and falls back to TCL_DEFAULT_ENCODING "iso8859-1" --=20 http://ache.vniz.net/ --PuKg2eHPNNvjl8UeQ6v8WHta5mjDtdWw2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWQhkjAAoJEKUckv0MjfbKZJ8H/1WmexGjac80HoT4GC1YoiZc 1tHQqlfakh3619HpOTw3biKdWOjVH1wpVxTNin/yelA9REmKhH6IM+T29Wk5MjvV tCM/B+PPDLa5tbgSfH6+V9PdCtSDvSK9U62oBWtgdexekYv3Pvno0e0e9vkbVm0H 34mGw/w6uyUVtrMtTrIG9xr9O5RK3BL7xJV9heTstI4vyeVrQcb4Sl4VmSEny8y0 wRhqBbPfgzejv9sS4Df00hdvZ8TSLxirrGkPwSi64KOfhJBub9U6HIlvm98ePgcc Gfwf2yDjLA4jvqe2Eemd7fTTJPBvThJCcFdEOUWtweGNWjlhFGdjRqPjrjLLB3M= =c9LU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PuKg2eHPNNvjl8UeQ6v8WHta5mjDtdWw2--
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