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Date:      Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:24:15 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>
Cc:        "freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org>, "FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org" <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: conf/181116: CURRENT build always uses bmake, even though WITHOUT_BMAKE is specified
Message-ID:  <ED81E13B-8E38-49D4-AF38-8BB5F4BA5EAF@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20130807175133.A099D58097@chaos.jnpr.net>
References:  <201308071650.r77Go0ql017340@freefall.freebsd.org> <E2882D7D-09E5-4295-B059-F48E1BC30370@gmail.com> <20130807175133.A099D58097@chaos.jnpr.net>

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On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net> wrote:

>=20
> src/Makefile does not read bsd.own.mk so does not see src.conf
> it does however see make.conf

Ah, but src.conf controls WITH* (and the option is documented in the manage,=
 along with all the others). You accidentally broke POLA :(.

> More importantly, is this a "test" or is there a percieved need to
> continue building with fmake?  If so why?

I gave up waiting for bmake and all the associated infrastructure to be back=
ported to stable/9 (and I know there's a snowball's chance in hades that it'=
ll be backported to stable/8), so I figured out how to make the test infrast=
ructure work independent of bmake.

> I was aiming to get rid of WITH[OUT]_BMAKE soon - in time for 10.0

This is a really bad idea. The fact that bmake causes conf/179111 without a m=
itigation strategy is reason alone to leave this knob in because I don't tru=
st all makefiles that exist outside of FreeBSD to work sanely without set -e=
. Heck, a lot of the Makefile snippets in FreeBSD don't behave sanely withou=
t set -e, as noted in the bug (and those are just a handful).

Management at $work would agree that it makes no sense wasting engineering h=
ours chasing down build faults.=



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