Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:18:36 -0800 From: Brian Gardner <brian@experts-exchange.com> To: Daichi GOTO <daichi@ongs.co.jp> Cc: Maho NAKATA <chat95@mac.com>, java@freebsd.org, glewis@FreeBSD.org, toshi@ruby.ocn.ne.jp, leafy7382@gmail.com, jkim@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Japanese font conf for JDK16 to use IPA font Message-ID: <49AEC5FC.4080808@experts-exchange.com> In-Reply-To: <49AE0D73.1060409@ongs.co.jp> References: <49A77F4A.2080508@ongs.co.jp> <20090303.164219.48483570.chat95@mac.com> <49AD03C0.7080707@ongs.co.jp> <20090303.205521.193732154.chat95@mac.com> <49AE0D73.1060409@ongs.co.jp>
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I'm talking about both, and agree with your assessment that since IPA is the best japanese font, then I will use it in the FreeBSD port. I will try to add it as a prereq for the Japan audience, so that users simply install the port and get the best experience! I will be taking this route with every langaunge. So far here is what I have going into the next release: JAPANESE - japanese/ipa-ttfonts KOREAN - korean/unfonts-ttf Daichi GOTO wrote: > I know all that all you know. It's correct. > > But our talk has a difference in awareness, you know? > I am talking about *A fontconfig.properties patch file > in Ports Collection (java/jdk16, java/openjdk6)*, you > are talking about *Back porting to OpenJDK6 original > src tree*, right? > > I believe that JDK16/OpenJDK6 default japanese font setting > of *PORTS COLLECTION* should be IPA font. And setting > default japanese font to VLgothic of *OpenJDK6 original src* > is not best but validness. > > (JIMO, there should be any kind of fontconfig.properties > of *OpenJDK6 original src*. ex, OS depends setting > (fontconfig.FreeBSD.properties, fontconfig.Ubuntu.properties, > fontconfig.OpenSolaris.properties, ...), font depend setting > (fontconfig.properties-bitstream, fontconfig.properties-vl, ...) > or something like that. Variation is important. Bacause > user can use valid font config for their platform just copying > a file if it has just suited). > > At last, I say again. I am talking about Ports Collection > only. You are talking about back porting to OpenJDK6 original src, > right? > > Maho NAKATA wrote: > >> Hi >> >> From: Daichi GOTO <daichi@ongs.co.jp> >> Subject: Re: Japanese font conf for JDK16 to use IPA font >> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:17:36 +0900 >> >> >>> Maho NAKATA wrote: >>> >>>> Daichi san >>>> Sorry for changing my mind...this is just suggestion. >>>> IPA font is good but license is too restrictive. >>>> >>> NO. That is old information. Please check latest IPAfont license. >>> We can use it as default font right now I guess. >>> >> Yes, I have checked the new one :) >> For me, "free" means we can also redistribute modified fonts; >> like IPA-mona-font http://www.geocities.jp/ipa_mona/ , >> M+ IPA font http://mix-mplus-ipa.sourceforge.jp/download.html >> and IPA fonts from FreeBSD ports (actually this is M+IPA font). >> >> Note that they still employes older licence, because newer license has >> restrictive clauses ($BBh(B3$B>r(B1). >> >> >>>> VLGothic is free font and ubuntu uses as user interface font. >>>> Fallback to VLGothic may useful for some environment. >>>> >>> NO. I do not think so. >>> >>> Ubuntu use VLGothic as default Japanese font since license issue, >>> yes I know that. (JFYI, PC-BSD use it as default Japanese/Chinese >>> font too, because of 1CD size limitation.) But it is lead by >>> Ubuntu *BINARY PACKAGE SITUATION* and their license policy, that is >>> not affected to Ports Collection of FreeBSD. >>> >> This part is correct. However, please aware that IPA font set is >> not a free one. Policies can be different between Linux distributions; >> Fedora won't be shipped with IPA fonts nor Ubuntu, etc. Situation is >> quite different from gcc; almost every distribution can include gcc, >> because it is a free software. >> it's okay but may result incompatibility issue. >> >> >>> So I believe that IPA font should be used as default Japanese >>> fonts on most situation, at least by Ports Collection. >>> How do you make of that? >>> >> It depends. If you and colleagues want to use FreeBSD, that's okay. >> However if you work with other people who use Linux, it could result >> some conflict. In any case, if there is a Windows or MacOSX guy, >> we cannot avoid conflict :) >> >> At least VLgothic is a free one, and the worst case, it would be better >> to have a fallback to VLgothic if IPA font is not present. >> >> Best >> -- Nakata Maho http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ , http://ja.openoffice.org/ >> Nakata Maho's PGP public keys: http://accc.riken.jp/maho/maho.pgp.txt >> > >
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