Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:38:40 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au> To: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> Cc: Akinori MUSHA <knu@FreeBSD.ORG>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors chapter.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook book.sgml Message-ID: <20021120203840.GA52271@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20021118185511.GG12906@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <200211180932.gAI9Wsk5074770@repoman.freebsd.org> <20021118164406.GC19355@xtanbul.studio.espresso-com.com> <20021118185511.GG12906@rot13.obsecurity.org>
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On 2002-Nov-18 10:55:36 -0800, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote: >On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 11:44:06AM -0500, The Anarcat wrote: >> How does the new multimedia category relate with regards to graphics >> and audio? >> >> Will ports (e.g. mplayer) be moved around to accomodate that >> definition? > >Yes. The 'graphics' category in particular is becoming overstuffed >with movie players - it should now be used only for ports which >manipulate or create graphic images. Depending on your definitions of "manipulate" and "graphic image", this would seem to include MPEG encoders/decoders (like movie players) - a movie is a sequence of graphic images which need substantial manipulation (just ask any CPU) to convert them to or from a binary data stream. >As with many categories, I expect there will be a few 'grey area' >ports, which will be handled on a case-by-case basis. Overall, I think this move is a good start, but much more is needed. I believe the current ports system was adequate back when we had 1000 or so ports, but is becoming unwieldy with nearly 8000 ports - its not always clear which category to look in and the number of ports in each category can make it hard to find what you want. On the former point, there's significant overlap between 'devel' and 'lang' as well as 'print' and 'textproc' and 'editors' - and there's no obvious place to look for a word-processor (lyx is in print, openoffice and staroffice are in editors). If I wanted a text formatter, I'd find TeX and friends in print, but the SGML formatters are in textproc. Likewise, acroread and xpdf are intended to be functionally equivalent - but the latter is in print and the former is in graphics. I've recently searched the ports for VCD/DVD players, WEB browsers, WEB proxy servers and C tutorials. In each case, I needed to read all the pkg-descr files in the relevant category. (Note that neither ogle nor mplayer mention 'VCD' so just grepping doesn't work). As an example, 'www' currently contains 442 ports. These can be fairly cleanly split into browsers, servers, proxies, log post- processors and browser or server plugins. (I agree there is some overlap - apache can be a server and/or a proxy). If I'm looking for a new browser to experiment with, it would be much easier to just peruse a list of WEB browser ports than a list of >400 ports which have something to do with the WEB. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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