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Date:      Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:27:56 +0200
From:      Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
To:        Greg Rivers <gcr+freebsd-current@tharned.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com>, David G Lawrence <dg@dglawrence.com>
Subject:   Re: 13.0 RC4 might be delayed
Message-ID:  <7c952519-d82e-c6c3-19c1-908a89defce0@madpilot.net>
In-Reply-To: <3765721.kAAoriTUSa@no.place.like.home>
References:  <2766233C-3CC7-4B02-95AB-7555A60FFD81@samsco.org> <1b3605eb-388e-283b-d907-67058ea62c0a@madpilot.net> <20210329013713.GA52047@mailx.dglawrence.com> <3765721.kAAoriTUSa@no.place.like.home>

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On 29/03/21 06:26, Greg Rivers wrote:
> On Sunday, 28 March 2021 20:37:13 CDT David G Lawrence via freebsd-current wrote:
>>>> On 27/03/21 06:04, David G Lawrence via freebsd-current wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:01 PM Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26/03/2021 03:40, The Doctor via freebsd-current wrote:
>>>>>>>> ??? if people are having issues with ports like ???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I'm not mistaken:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * 13.0-RC3 seems to be troublesome, as a guest machine, with
>>>>>>> emulators/virtualbox-ose 6.1.18 as the host
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * no such trouble with 12.0-RELEASE-p5 as a guest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope to refine the bug report this weekend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Had nothing but frequent guest lockups on 6.1.18 with my Win7 system.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> was right after 6.1.18 was put into ports. Fell back to legacy (v5) and
>>>>>> will try again shortly to see if it's any better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin,
>>>>>
>>>>> ?????? Make sure you have these options in your /etc/sysctl.conf :
>>>>>
>>>>> vfs.aio.max_buf_aio=8192
>>>>> vfs.aio.max_aio_queue_per_proc=65536
>>>>> vfs.aio.max_aio_per_proc=8192
>>>>> vfs.aio.max_aio_queue=65536
>>>>>
>>>>> ?????? ...otherwise the guest I/O will random hang in VirtualBox. This
>>>>> issue was
>>>>> mitigated in a late 5.x VirtualBox by patching to not use AIO, but the
>>>>> issue
>>>>> came back in 6.x when that patch wasn't carried forward.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I lost that patch. Can you point me to the patch? Maybe it can be
>>>> easily ported.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I found the relevant commit. Please give me some time for testing and
>>> I'll put this patch back in the tree.
>>
>>     If you're going to put that patch back in, then AIO should probably be
>> made an option in the port config, as shutting AIO off by default will
>> have a significant performance impact. Without AIO, all guest IO will
>> be become synchronous.
>>     Ideally, someone would fix the AIO case by either increasing the defaults
>> in FreeBSD to something reasonable, and/or properly handing the case when
>> an AIO limit is reached.
>>
> Agreed, it would be a shame to have AIO disabled by default. A one time update to sysctl.conf (per the existing pkg message!) is a small price to pay for much better performance.
> 

Good point. Now the question is, what the default should be. Since the 
correct aio configuration is in the pkg-message and easy to setup I'd go 
for default to AIO turned on.

I Have a few things on he pope with ports, I will need some days to work 
this out.

-- 
Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>



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