Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:55:30 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt <sos@ravenock.cybercity.dk> To: grog@lemis.de Cc: plm@xs4all.nl, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bisdn Message-ID: <199702011755.SAA05874@ravenock.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <199702011556.QAA19237@freebie.lemis.de> from "grog@lemis.de" at "Feb 1, 97 04:56:10 pm"
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In reply to grog@lemis.de who wrote:
> >>> Yes, that is the problem for most people. I'm surprised that you don't
> >>> use PPP! Here all ISP's offer ISDN access only through syncPPP. I
> >>> can't even think of another way. If you don't use PPP, then how do you
> >>> get TCP/IP over ISDN?
> >
> > GL> Why should you need ppp to run IP? None of the high-speed lines do.
> > GL> They run a straight layer 2 protocol--HDLC, in the case of ISDN over
> > GL> here. ppp just adds encapsulation overhead.
> >
> > Indeed, but in practice, every home user who connects to an ISP needs PPP.
> > There aren't many that can afford dedicated links.
>
> Agreed, but there's no connection between the two matters.
>
> > At least I don't know of any ISP's that offer other ways for
> > TCP/IP connection.
>
> There aren't too many in the USA. That doesn't mean that there
> shouldn't be. I believe most ISDN routers can be set up to run
> without PPP. Certainly the ISPs over here, nearly all of who offer
> transparent HDLC, use the same routers as are used in the USA.
Here in DK land most (if not all) ISP uses PPP as well, so
nearly all is only in DE land (I think)....
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