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Date:      Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:56:14 +0200
From:      Hans Petter Selasky <hselasky@c2i.net>
To:        ticso@cicely.de
Cc:        usb@freebsd.org, Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: may I commit this small umodem patch ?
Message-ID:  <200807052256.15792.hselasky@c2i.net>
In-Reply-To: <20080705162426.GD41487@cicely7.cicely.de>
References:  <20080703140719.GA72315@onelab2.iet.unipi.it> <200807050957.07900.hselasky@c2i.net> <20080705162426.GD41487@cicely7.cicely.de>

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On Saturday 05 July 2008, Bernd Walter wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 09:57:06AM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 July 2008, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 12:28:47AM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> > > > On Friday 04 July 2008, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 11:33:15PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wro=
te:
> > > > > > On Thursday 03 July 2008, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 05:07:00PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrot=
e:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:07:19 +0200
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > There was a discussion back in september about adding
> > > > > > > > > support for basic CDC tty devices in umodem.c.
> > > > > > > > > This lets you talk to a number of usb devices built around
> > > > > > > > > microcontrollers (e.g. Atmel), and puts us on par with
> > > > > > > > > Linux and Windows in terms of supporting these devices.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Because this simply requires the small patch below to the
> > > > > > > > > probe/attach routine, so if there are no objections I plan
> > > > > > > > > to add this to the system (CURRENT then RELENG_7 and
> > > > > > > > > RELENG_6) in the next few days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What about flow control? Is flow control required for these
> > > > > > devices?
> > > > >
> > > > > the ones I am talking about don't implement any form of flow
> > > > > control. I suppose they would otherwise match the previous check.
> > > > >
> > > > > luigi
> > > >
> > > > I mean, are you going to upload firmware through these interfaces?
> > >
> > > the OS only know about bytes.
> > >
> > > are firmware, software, data or random noise.
> > > if you want to know whether the sam7 uploader works, yes it does.
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> > Yes, but you know that umodem can drop data, if the buffers overflow ?
>
> Do you mean the driver can loose data?
> It would be good if this is avoidable somehow.
> In fact those beasts have some kind of pseudo flow control in that they
> don't ack further packets.
> Basicly this is nothing more than using a pair of bulk pipes for raw
> data, but under the hood of CDC identification.
> I personally only use them for uploading firmware to AT91SAM7*
> controllers, as luigi does, but since Windows and Linux have generic
> drivers this is quite popular.

=46rom what I know the TTY layer which umodem uses will dump data when the=
=20
buffers are full. But it there is some kind of framing in the protocol used=
,=20
then this is no problem.

=2D-HPS



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