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Date:      Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:06:51 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Cc:        Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, FreeBSD Chat <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS?
Message-ID:  <a05200f08b9ff1427bc7c@[146.106.12.76]>
In-Reply-To: <20021117200529.S23359-100000@hub.org>
References:  <20021117200529.S23359-100000@hub.org>

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At 8:08 PM -0400 2002/11/17, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>  Exactly, but if there is not sufficient support for those willing to do
>  that effort, it makes it very difficult ... that's why I think there
>  almost might need to be a stable-qa list that some of us can have a more
>  focused ear of the developers on ... not for build related issues, only
>  stability related ... if I can't build the system, I don't install it, I
>  just wait a few days and try again ...

	To ensure that the signal/noise ratio is kept to reasonable 
levels, the stable-qa and current-qa lists should be reserved for 
people who are willing to commit extra time and resources to actually 
properly debugging things (which I believe I am willing and able to 
do, and sounds like you are as well), and there should be a similar 
commitment from the people writing the code.

	IMO, if we could make a closed pair of lists for this sort of 
thing, I believe that the developers would be much more willing to 
work with us.


	In essence, what we're talking about is something akin to the 
level of commitment and involvement you'd get from someone if they 
were to get commit privileges to the source tree, only that person 
would be doing testing and debugging as opposed to development.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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